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Dec 19, 2018

Author of seven books Nicky is NZ's foremost investigative journalist - covering - intelligence networks, environmental matters, politics and other issues. Whose books have both illuminated and shocked readers across the country as well as globally  - as we as a nation find out to our consternation - that behind the news, the bureaucratic systems and the political world - truth is hidden from the masses on a grand and vast scale.

He is the only New Zealand member of the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists.   Their website

A World First?

To people reading this from overseas it was Nicky who in 1996, essentially 'revealed to the world community' that there was a huge secretive global listening system in place that was ‘hoovering’ up all global electronic communications. Be it telephone calls, emails, faxes, web pages, Google searches, etc and now including texts, Facebook, postings, Twitter feeds etc, etc - all are being recorded to gigantic overseas data bases. This includes this posting you are reading - at this moment - (hi guys!)  

Echelon = Five Eyes.

This system was called 'Echelon’ now dubbed 'Five Eyes' and these ‘bases’ were and still are in the US, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. The Anglo American speaking world.

Though he was basically ignored in NZ, when the European Parliament heard about this they were initially very upset, especially the French and the Germans. So Nicky was invited to come to the European Parliament to report on his findings. However, to this day, this listening system remains in place as an integral part of the 'deep state’, to the degree that Angela Merkel the German leader, to her consternation, up until relatively recently, had her mobile phone tapped and all her private information recorded.

The interview:

The Police Raid

I asked Nicky if he feels safe in his home after the police raid in 2014 and the confiscation of his computers and files. His answer was that it was emotional disturbing - (listen).  

Yet, as a result, he received an 'extraordinary apology' from the NZ police afterwards - stating they should not have done it and that they won't do it again.

Then in mid-June 2018, he accepted the apology and compensation for "substantial damages" from  the New Zealand Police for the raid as part of their investigation into the hacking that led to the Dirty Politics book. The Police also acknowledged accessing his financial records as part of the apology settlement.

I asked, when the police have to pay up in instances like this, where does the money come from, us the NZ public? Which he agreed that basically it is us, the police are part of the Government that taxpayers finance.

Fortunately, Nicky had three top quality lawyers - who gave of their time to have the police, (who after 4 years) finally give an apology to him as well as make 'a declaration that they had acted unlawfully.'

He said he was very fortunate in getting the police to apologise. Because this might now stop them doing it to others who are far less resourced than him and his three lawyer friends.

In asking about society in general, Nicky states:

Most people believe in social services, pay their taxes and want to work for a better world for other people - and that it is only a relatively small number of people that muck it up on massive scale - by doing things secretly, unaccountably that no one knows what they are doing.

If journalists let the world know that they can do good quality journalism - this helps curtail people in strong financial and powerful situations from doing corrupt business and banking deals etc.

Investigative journalistic ideals work always towards a better world and how things can be right for a better future for children of today  and tomorrow and he says there are more of us than them - and by persistence and focus we can definitely change things for the better. Because there illegal practices are essentially ‘mucking' it up for all of us.  

When asked the question, about the lack of top quality journalists across NZ - and did he want to comment on this?

He said that there are a good number of very good journalists in NZ, however how the system is run, that it is very difficult to be published. (Listen)

To the question about the lack of quality news media - MSM?   He states that when scrutinised MSN are not fulfilling its function in a democratic society.  

When asked about Wikipedia - do you find that everything on it is factual and true? Especially about you, Nicky Hager, on your Wiki entry?

Nicky says he will never use Wiki, because if the topic is disputed - this is hugely  problematic - especially if there are different sides and interests based around money etc - then Wiki becomes less and less reliable.

Some Wiki pages have people with glowing information - they may be important in someone’s estimate - because so much  attention has been given to them. But we need to be very wary.

Do you get any feedback that certain entities go on to Wiki and change and edit the  narrative? Yes, this too is problematic.

Is there a secretive war going on Wiki?


You have written 7 books of these:


1 Secret Power    (See above)

This also covered the GCSB the NZ Government Communications Security Bureau that can and does listen to all NZ communications within NZ.

  • Tim mentions Oliver Stone the US film director and his movie  - ‘Snowden' - where it implicates the US Deep State, clearly interfering with the Government of Syria - when in fact MSM and the US media tells us that there is a civil war happening - which is clearly not true - Listen or watch the movie.  

2 Secrets and  Lies

Is about Timberlands West Coast Limited an exposé - in order to cunningly win public support for logging of native forests (old growth) on the West Coast of New Zealand.   (Not mentioned)

3 Seeds of Distrust

  • GE & GMO
  • The book tells the story of how the New Zealand Government handled the unwelcome news of contamination of corn crops with genetically engineered seeds imported from overseas.  NZ Officials succumbed to industry lobbying, quietly changed the regulations to “allow” contaminated crops and ‘managed’ the risk of politicians and the public objecting, by keeping the whole incident secret. The book is not about the corn but about the political management.

In this interview Tim mentions that contaminated seeds are still coming into the country especially over 168,000 tons of GE Soybeans, fed to pigs and chickens. Whilst the NZ Government / biosecurity are looking the other way. There is a lot more in the interview about other GE contaminants entering the Port Of Tauranga, having been rejected by China.

Nicky understandably (due to all his other many commitments) was not aware of this.

Tim asked Nicky about whole paddocks in NZ being sprayed with Monsanto’s glyphosate - causing untold hidden affects to the soil microflora and that when this information becomes known overseas  - that NZ’s clean green image has been sabotaged by their own farmers - what are the consequences for NZ exports? Nicky was not aware of this as this is only just now becoming known.

4 The Hollow Men

  • In November 2006 Hager's book The Hollow Men: A Study in the Politics of Deception was published. The book details a wide range of NZ National Party internal party documents including emails which were leaked by six National Party insiders. The documents were written by the party leader  Don Brash and a wide range of people associated with him.
  • The origin of the book was the exposing of the Exclusive Brethren and their secret funding of the National Party election advertising during the 2005 general election. (This subject was not mentioned either).

5 Other People's  Wars
The war on terror in Afghanistan and beyond has been the longest foreign war in New Zealand history, yet most New Zealanders know almost nothing about their country's part in it. For ten years, nearly everything controversial or potentially unpopular was kept secret, and obscured by a steady flow of military public relations stories.

  • Based on thousands of leaked New Zealand military and intelligence documents, extensive interviews with military and intelligence officers and eye-witness accounts from the soldiers on the ground, Nicky Hager tells the story of these years. New Zealand was was far more involved than the public realised in this crucial period of world history, He tells how the military and bureaucracy used the war on terror to pursue private agendas, even when this meant misleading and ignoring the decisions of the elected government.
  • "Nicky Hager has more knowledge and  understanding of the American intelligence world in Afghanistan both its good and it’s very  bad points than any reporter I know." Seymour Hersh, 2013

6 Dirty Politics
In August 2014, Hager published Dirty Politics: How attack politics is poisoning New Zealand's political environment, featuring leaked emails between National Party figures and right-wing bloggers. According to Hager the book aims to tell the story of "how attack politics is poisoning NZ's political environment".

Hit & Run - with Jon  Stephenson

  • In March 2017, Hager and fellow  journalist Jon Stephenson published Hit & Run: The New Zealand SAS in Afghanistan and the meaning of honour. The book explored the New Zealand Special Air Service's involvement in Operation Burnham, a retaliatory military raid on two Afghan villages, Naik and Khak Khuday Dad, in Afghanistan's Tirgiran Valley in August 2010. The NZ SAS soldiers had attacked a village while pursuing Taliban fighters following the death of a New Zealand soldier in a roadside bomb. According to Hager and Stephenson, none of the fighters were found but 15 civilians were wounded and six killed. The authors asserted that the NZ SAS actions could be considered war crimes and alleged a cover up by the New Zealand Defence Force.
  • Tim: Why is it that our elite NZ SAS special air service forces are used in Afghanistan? Is it because they are better than the US SEALs or because the US military is so over stretched in their world wide network of bases etc?
  • No, because certain elements within the NZ Defence Forces have expressly asked the US to utilise our highly skilled armed soldiers.
  • Listen   

  • Following the  formation of a new Labour-New  Zealand First-Greens coalition government after the 2017 general election,  Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Defence Minister Ron Mark announced in early November that they would hold an inquiry  into the allegations raised by Hit and Run
  • On 13 March 2018, the New Zealand Defence Force  confirmed that the location of an Afghan village mentioned in the book Hit & Run was the same place where the NZSAS raid Operation Burnham took place but maintained that claims of civilian casualties were "unfounded.”
  • On 19 March, the NZDF confirmed that the photos published in Hit  & Run were taken in the same location where Operation Burnham had taken place.
  • On 9 April 2018, the Chief Ombudsman Peter Boshier ruled in favour of the New Zealand  Defense Force's decision to withhold most of the information relating to Operation Burnham.
  • On 11 April, Attorney-General David Parker announced that the Government would be holding an inquiry into Operation  Burnham and the allegations in Hit & Run.
  • 9 IGIS Reference Group
    International Consortium of Investigative  Journalists

  • Read up on the Panama papers as well as the Paradise Files and you will see just how pervasive corruption is in much of the financial world.
  • On 16 April 2018, Nicky Hager was appointed as a member of the Inspector-General of Intelligence and  Security's Reference Group, an advisory group of journalists, lawyers, academics, and advocates that would scrutinise the legality of the actions of New Zealand's20 intelligence agencies, the NZSIS and GCSB.
  • Hager's appointment was criticised by the National Party's GCSB and NZSIS spokesperson Gerry Brownlee, who pointed to his previous criticism of the NZSIS.
  • Other questions:
  • Anything on who pay donations secretly to political parties? This to Nicky is a big deal. He states that NZ has to clean up its act regarding donations to Political Parties. This to him is an imperative  Listen
  • NZs foreign policy?  Trade with China, and defence with the USA. Is this a incongruent foreign policy?
  • Especially as Paul Buchanan the NZ security analyst and researcher intimated that it was actually a schizophrenic foreign policy. Listen

Tim says that as NZ is now in the US Alliance once again, playing with the most expensive and lethal of weapons, it was a different story when the NZ Government democratically announced its Nuclear Free policy, back in 1987. Once this happened NZ Army service men - on bases in the US were shunned through no fault of their own. Many cases of being ignored by US service people made life very difficult for the NZers as they disengaged under NZ Government orders. Example cited: whilst walking along corridors bases in the US as soon as any US servicemen saw the NZ counterpart walking towards them, they immediately opened up any door to their left or right and went inside closing the door waiting for the NZer to pass and then coming out ‘after the kiwi had moved on.’  This was very un ‘warrior like.’ A true warrior respects another warrior from the other side and vice versa. “ True warriors do have codes of ethics, which they follow.”

The NZ Frigate Te Kaha being birthed in Honolulu July 08 2012

The frigate HMNZS Te Kaha and tanker HMNZS Endeavour were taking part in Rimpac, the world's biggest military operation, but while old enemies Japan and even a Russian ship were are allowed into Pearl Harbour, the New Zealand ships were sent to Aloha Tower  - deep in the commercial heart of Honolulu. This was seen as being unfriendly, possibly spiteful, all as a result of NZ’s 1987, democratic process of not allowing nuclear armed or powered naval ships into NZ ports or waters.

Tim asked Nicky about the John Campbell Live  - James Clapper episode - here in NZ. Where in March 15th 2011 – Top NSA Spy chief, James Clapper, flies to NZ to meet with John Key and this was so secret it was not mentioned at all by the NZ Government -...

This country owes John Campbell and the Campbell Live team for explaining how this was exposed - that an aviation photographer at Wellington airport saw a US Airforce Transport plane on the tarmac and photographed it and then enlarged the photo to be able to actually see who was getting back on board - that it was James Clapper on his way back home. he had been quietly here in relation to security and Five Eyes and NZers knew zero about it. Note the Campbell live show critique went along political lines. The left said something is fishy and the right blew it off as a conspiracy.

Note as Clapper is 'deep state’ he has been accused of perjury back in the US .

March 12, 2013, during a United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence hearing, Senator  Ron Wyden quoted NSA director Keith B. Alexander's keynote speech at the 2012 DEF CON. Alexander had stated that "Our job is foreign intelligence" and that "those who would want to weave the story that we have millions or hundreds of millions of dossiers on people, is absolutely false…. from my perspective, this is absolute nonsense.”  Senator Wyden of the Select intelligence Committee asked Clapper, "Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?" He responded, "No, sir." Wyden asked "It does not?" and Clapper said, "Not wittingly. There are cases where they could inadvertently, perhaps, collect, but not wittingly."

This opens the question, does the spying facility in NZ spy on Australia and the Australians spy on the Canadians and the Canadians spy on the Americans - The US on the UK etc etc and on it goes, every country vacuuming up the other countries communications so that under oath, the intelligence officials can say they are not spying on ‘their own’ country?

So this was more than a very engaging interview.

What one comes away is that Nicky is straight down the line, my questioning could not sway him in any direction other than he told the truth from what he knew.

Though this was a serious interview there were a few little parts that made one laugh, mainly at the ludicrousness of it all.

Dec 13, 2018

We have all been birthed onto this planet and from our first breath our journey has been one that I would like to think, of being wanted, loved and that our parents and siblings make family life one of connection and joy.

Yet, has this ideal been materialised in your life?

Kathy tells of her experience having just over the last 10 years been available 24/7 as a midwife - of assisting around 500 human babies to be born into our realm.

She also says that there is an increasing understanding of new holistic preparatory  methods, that once the prospective ‘first' mother-to-be, educates herself (along with her spouse) major positive changes eventuate. This translates to attending advanced prenatal class etc, (prior to birth) that from then on - virtually every birth becomes so much easier. That over the hours, days, weeks and months every aspect of motherhood, becomes so much easier for both baby and mother - making parenting very satisfying and fulfilling.  

She mentions that in the current obstetric system 50% of first time births for mums are dramatic and traumatic - however when we add up the C section and also the instrumental delivery rate - this is what happens.

That any woman who are not fully engaged in their pregnancy - having too much happening in their life -  (yet still think that they are engaged), but they are not fully engaged - like get really focussed and engaged and get as much information about pregnancy so that when the time of the birth happens - that it a fantastic beautiful, wonderful birth - everything goes better.  

The enjoyment of feeding is better, the baby is thriving - virtually no post natal depression - the husband and partner are wrapped -everything just works better - everything flows in what Kathy calls the ‘cascade of normalcy’  -

She states that the Number 1 priority for the baby is:

    The safest, most kindest, most gentlest birth. (Listen to what is often said next)

    Mum’s to be - you need to quit work early if you can!  It is important to be rested and relaxed

    (we did not get around to soft nature sound or soothing music for the baby in utero …

Gold standard for mums doing part time work to 28 weeks and not working from 32 weeks   This always turns out better for the mother - listen

Working to 38 weeks is definitely not the way to go.

Eating - the big one is for mothers is to avoid food poisoning - this Kathy says is what it is all about.  Listen  - Fresh, organic,

Mothers milk and the magic of what it does. Listen

Baby be fed breast milk for the first 6 months - has all the antibodies and goodness for babies intestines.

Formula - very technically advanced now …

Though no colostrum, be it a mouse, a goat or a whale - because we are born with our intestines sterile.

The need for us all to be aware of the inherent goodness of mothers milk.

China Visit

Kathy talks about her last months visit to China of 1.4 billion people, where there are 400 million millennials in there 20’s and 30’s. That each year 17 million Chinese babies come into the world.

China is relaxing its 1 person policy to that of a 2  child policy - yet, with no welfare system available, the children as they grow older become aware of filial responsible for ones parents …of taking care of them in their retirement - getting an education and working is incredibly important over there. That child has 4 grand parents and 2 parents who have an investment in that child. Plus a respected hierarchy within the family - they still have strong Confusion values.

Kathy states that:

China in 10 to 15 years time will be a world leader in child birth and all things related to babies coming into the world?

Acupuncture is incorporated into their practices as well as traditional Chinese herbal medicine. This is happening here too  as we modernise obstetric care in NZ, with both acupuncture and homeopathy utilisation.

Topics covered included water births

Especially when it was first introduced in the 1980’s and water births need to be divided into 2 parts - one  water labour and 2 water births.

Labouring in water is good thing approved though the jury is still out in relationship to water births.

Other subjects covered is learning to squat - for assisting easy births. Most women in the developing squat to do many chores and thus are able to give birth easier due to the practice of opening their pelvis more.

Questions that ‘I’ did not get around to asking.

What was not covered was that certain Amazonian Indians continually pass their babies from mother to father to grandmother to grandfather to aunt to uncle back to the mother and around all the other relatives in the tribes  - so that the baby is so secure and at peace - that heart beats of different family member as well as energy given off is automatically sensed by the growing infant that some infants rarely have to crawl because they are always in some loving family members arms.

Not to use microwaved drink or food especially in plastic containers - even if approved as being microwave safe.

What are indigo children as well as rainbow and crystal children - (Very evolved souls).

Kathy’s Web site

Dec 5, 2018

I have watched John Tamihere from a distance, but became especially interested in his research on Auckland Council, when I read an article of his in the Herald on November 9th.

In the article John mentions Penny Bright’s ‘relentless requests’ for council to open its books. As Alan Preston and I have a petition now in parliament asking, in Penny’s words, “that the House of Representatives undertake an urgent inquiry into whether Auckland Council has failed to comply with the statutory requirements of section 17(1) of the Public Records Act 2005”, I contacted John to see if he would meet me.

Since meeting John, I have discovered a petition by Susan Wann that requests “that the House of Representatives conduct an independent inquiry into Auckland Council's performance, including financial accountability, and then pass legislation reforming Auckland's local government.”

So people are beginning to wake up to Auckland Council’s lack of financial performance and transparency, particularly around CCOs (Council Controlled Organisations) or Costly Creations as John has referred to them as.

Private procurement, or “contracting out” of public services, (formerly provided in-house under the public service model), is now often done under contract management. If there is no cost-benefit analysis which proves that privatisation is more cost-effective for ratepayers, then questions must be asked.

Both Susan Wann’s and my petition have been sent to the Governance and Administration Committee in parliament.

NZ law is very clear on the requirement for transparency in public spending:

Section 17(1) of the Public Records Act 2005 says:

“Requirement to create and maintain records

(1) Every public office and local authority must create and maintain full and accurate records of its affairs, in accordance with normal, prudent business practice, including the records of any matter that is contracted out to an independent contractor.”

John has discovered that $1.049 billion needs disclosure on via just 6 CCOs in the last annual reports. See his Herald article below where he also exposes the massive salaries of the CEOs of those 6 organisations. John says there is a need for whistleblowers.

John is very clear that people are waking to the fact that the Emperor has no clothes!

However he feels that we need to reset our culture. He says, “Kiwis are not stupid, they are waking up”.

He talks about the government’s next budget that is being called the Wellbeings Budget, where success will be measured by wellbeing. He is hopeful it will bring change.

He says supply-side economics has failed us and we need to acknowledge that. Supply-side economics is a macroeconomic theory arguing that economic growth can be most effectively created by lowering taxes and decreasing regulation and is often referred to as Rogernomics in New Zealand. After 30 years of it we have our profits going offshore and the gap between rich and poor has increased exponentially.

I asked John to imagine he was mayor, and what was the first thing he would do to rectify some of the issues we had raised. He replied, Clean the house”! He would like to keep democracy safe and one way to do that would be to appoint an integrity unit which in effect would be an ombudsman. Corruption must be addressed.

He spoke about recycling and homelessness, cycleways and a variety of issues.

He talked warmly of compassion and integrity and how we must not lose our humanity. Also democracy must not be retired to Netflix! Only 36% voted in the last local body elections and while some people don’t bother, others move house and so may not receive their voting papers.

John Tamihere Bio:

JT as is he is affectionately known - is one of Māoridom’s greatest enigmas.

Whether it has been battling in the political arena, where JT served two terms as a Government Minister or going toe-to-toe with iwi leadership over the rights of urban Māori, JT has never wavered from advocating for the rights and mana of his people.

Brought up by a rugby league loving Māori father and staunchly Catholic Pākehā mother, JT’s parents were a huge influence and encouraging force in his life.

Born 10th of 12 children, JT was the first to attend university, graduating with a double degree in arts and law.

In 1988, he was the youngest Regional Manager, Department of Māori Affairs and the youngest District Solicitor for Waikato Maniapoto Land District.

JT was appointed as CEO of West Auckland’s Waipareira Trust as Waitangi Treaty settlements with the Crown were being settled. But urban Māori were given no concessions or rights and JT, despite his own iwi affiliations, took the Wai414 Claim to the Waitangi Tribunal and later the Privy Council in London to address this injustice. The legal ruling of the Wai414 Claim recognised urban Māori under the Treaty.

That win catapulted JT into politics and he easily won the Hauraki Electorate for Labour, also appointed Chair of the Māori Affairs Select Committee. There was consensus that JT would become our first Māori Prime Minister, after winning the Tāmaki Makaurau seat in 2002 and promoted to Cabinet, that view seemed on track.

In 2005, JT left parliament, returning to Whānau Waipareira, where he has grown the organisation’s balance sheet by 90%, while establishing Waipareira as a local, national and internationally recognised whānau, who deploy services across an integrated framework.

He has also led the establishment of North Island Whānau Ora Commissioning Agency Te Pou Matakana. JT remains lead negotiator Ngāti Porou ki Hauraki and Chair of Ngāti Porou ki Hauraki and a Māori appointment on the Māori TV Board.

JT’s vision, leadership and genuine crossover appeal with Pākehā, has become a loss to politics but a major victory for urban Māori.



Here is John Tamihere’s Herald article, “Shine a Light on these Costly Creations,”

Lisa Er and Alan William Preston’s petition press release

Nov 28, 2018

The subject matter, of experimenting on animals that have no voice, gives cause to wonder what we are doing as a so-called civilisation.

Where does mindfulness and a duty of care come into it?
But more so - compassion?

Especially here in NZ where most New Zealanders have a cat or dog or a pet of some kind. But, it's a harsh reality when animals are treated with a certain disdain when money power and profits are concerned. Just look into the eye of that forlorn guinea pig in this graphic.

Tara is the CEO of the New Zealand Anti-Vivisection Society (NZAVS) and having a degree in Zoology wants to do what she can to educate the public so as the animal kingdom is not exploited by both pain and money.    

On average over 300,000 animals are used in vivisection in New Zealand each year. These experiments are performed in universities, schools, polytechnics, commercial laboratories, government departments and ministries. The species used include hamsters, mice, rats, guinea-pigs, sheep, cattle, goats, birds, fish, alpaca, buffalo, cats, deer, dogs, donkeys, horses, pigs, and more.

Farm animals are experimented on to make them grow faster, have more babies, use their food more efficiently, or to change the quality of their milk. Plus, there are cruel genetic modification and cloning experiments going on that we the public have really no idea what’s happening.

From her studies of animals she says it is impossible to use one complex system to predict the outcomes of another complex system. Every animal species is different,

That her strong passion for valid science and her obvious strong commitment for animal rights - combined together has pushed her into her current role, where she has in a little over 4 years embedded her ideals into

Tara feels she wants to continue what Bet Everell did and work towards ending animal experiments in NZ. Betty Overell - was the person to really bring this issue to the public consciousness across New Zealand. When in 1989 she led a march to Parliament with a further Petition, signed by 100,640 New Zealanders demanding the abolition of all experiments on animals after obtaining affidavits from doctors all over the world who claim vivisection is medically and scientifically invalid.

Bette Overell is recognised internationally for her work in the new abolitionist movement.

So how is NZ progressing with regard to animal welfare?

A Brief History of Animal Welfare that influenced NZ

Henry Stephens Salt  20 Sept 1851 – 19 April 1939 (born in India, to British parents) who when in England, formed the Humanitarian League in 1891. Its aims were to enforce the principle that it is iniquitous to inflict avoidable suffering on any sentient being. Its objectives included the banning of vivisection as well as hunting as a sport. It was Salt who first introduced Mohandas Gandhi to the influential works of Henry David Thoreau, and influenced Gandhi's study of vegetarianism.

His views were reported widely, including in New Zealand.

There was a compassionate, philosophical article in the NZ Herald on the 11th June 1890 by Jon Abbott of St Georges Bay Road, Parnell  Auckland calling for a halt to the cruelty of Vivisection - yet his was truly a voice in the wilderness in those days.

New Zealand Organisations

Once it became clear that animal experiments were occurring in New Zealand at medical schools and agricultural research stations, anti-vivisectionists began to organise. The first anti-vivisection society had been set up in Auckland by 1930, and branches of the BUAV British Union for the Abolition of Vivisection were established in other centres by the 1940s. In 1944 the Council of Combined Animal Welfare Organisations (CAWO) was formed. This was a coalition of Theosophists, anti-vivisection leagues and the newly established Vegetarian Society, led by Theosophist Geoffrey Hodson. In its advocacy of animal welfare measures CAWO had much in common with the SPCA, but it had a no-compromise stance on vivisection.

In New Zealand there was some interest in the cause, and vivisection was occasionally debated. A few groups including feminist organisations and many Theosophical Society members  condemned it, but the SPCA members had a range of views from total opposition to reluctant acceptance.

Gains and Losses

CAWO was successful in campaigning for regulations governing humane slaughter, and the outlawing of the sports of hare coursing and captive pigeon shooting. However, its anti-vivisection aspirations were thwarted by the Animals Protection Act 1960 which, although it introduced many reforms, made animal experiments legal.

This Interview Covers

Where we are today in 2018

Vivisection Is Still Happening!

Today there are now many different models for learning about dissections without going out and getting a lab rat to dissect and cut up. That there are sophisticated as well as simple anatomical models here today and Tara says that dissections could have been halted yesterday.

Massey University Veterinary Department is seen as very progressive and up there as leaders - but Tara cautions by saying Massey in other areas still uses some highly invasive purposes, never-the-less.

But the Veterinary Clinical Training Room for vets has high quality mannequins of all different species to use. Even giant horse mannequins that can mimic certain disorders so that students can pick up and learn from.

They have fake dogs (robots) that mimic certain heart conditions that students can listen for also.

But there is not yet enough of this across NZ.

Testing Drugs On Animals

In this interview we learn that using animal studies, like testing drugs on them does not give in any way a true measure that these said drugs will have a positive effect on a human. This is a proven fact. Animals and humans are vastly different and cannot be used for predicting human outcomes. There are study after studies proving that experimenting on animals have no relationship to how these drugs will react on humans.

In 2006, the TGN1412 drug that was used, created the opposite effect in humans as it did in animals - and people were left with organ damage.

Thalidomide drugs were tested on animals with no side effects but caused tragic results in humans.

Other incidents of humans illness resulting from drugs that have been ‘successfully’ tested on animals have been discretely silenced. There have been many adverse side effects to people, but these results are gagged by confidentiality clauses where big Pharma - closes the whole subject down. This in itself is criminal where vast amounts of money is used to quash any negative results silencing the whole concern - to not even cause a ripple throughout society.

Otago University comes in for some bad vibes as not being conscious of animal rights or mindfulness - and are thus seen as dragging the chain in this regard. This is a result of blacking out all the windows of the animal lab on the 5th floor of the Hercus building in Dunedin, where on the top floor the animals are kept. Why blackout windows? - Animals need as much natural light as possible too.

Often, activists have to use the Official Information Act to find out what is actually happening

Tara says that it’s very difficult to get information especially as to what private companies are doing behind closed doors.

Other Topics Covered:

Support for stopping vivisection continues from within NZ with concerned public helping over long time periods, going back to the 1970’s and 80s. As this is seen as an ongoing important issue that many people contribute to - for their whole life.

Cosmetics testing on animals - Is now banned in NZ   

But not the ban on importation of cosmetics that have been tested on animals

Plus NZ has banned psychoactive substances being used on animals  - There was a huge rally all over NZ along with HUHA support:

There has been a  Ban on the - Draize test -  - a cruel test done normally in rabbits where chemicals are poured into their open eyes and on the skin of rabbits - listen

There has been a special children’s book written - called “The 6 Foot Rats" - presently in process to being sent to every school in NZ.

It’s an important and powerful educational tool disguised as a fun and colourful children's book, by local artist Rebecca Gibbs.

Also mentioned in the interview - Anita Roddick - founder of the Body Shop. The Body Shop was the first global beauty brand to fight against animal testing in cosmetics and was the first company to be certified with the Leaping Bunny logo in 1997.

China comes up as not focussing on animal experiments and cosmetics been sold into China. So China needs to be nudged into eliminating all types of experiments on animals. - comes in for a warm ‘shout out’ as it does not sell its products into China. Tara states that they are very good people who donate to animal groups that work towards freeing up animals from experimentation.

That today 100 million animals in the USA alone are being used in experiments  

Note that corporations who say they do not experiment on animals UNLESS required by law - means that they sell into China - that they are not walking their talk.

Dr Ray Greek is a global champion for the cause.

Why Animal Testing is Ineffective for Preventing and Curing Human Diseases.

The New Biomed 21 group are a more humane health organisation who bring scientists and institutions from around the world to work towards more benevolent ways of researching and testing products for human health.

Ricky Gervais - Comedian and well known world personality  -

Is one of the more stronger advocates on the world stage who speaks out on behalf of animals.

New Zealand Politics

Mojo Mathers - Green  - initiated the ban on animal testing for cosmetics in NZ

Gareth Hughes - Green  - is prepared to speak up on this issue too

Jo Luxton - Labour -  in the past rescued an ex lab rat


Unwanted Chickens are killed by a conveyor belt - especially if males and don’t lay eggs.

Chooks still in cages today - a horror story laying eggs for unconscious buyers - the chickens are bred and designed to be trapped in their own bodies and then in tiny, tiny cages to live and lay eggs as part of one large computerised, factory, industrial system. With no sunlight, rain or wind, or soil beneath their feet

Cows in NZ are expedient too. Whereas 60 years ago a cow would live to be 13 to 14 years of age - today they are basically exhausted at 4 and a half years old and so are sent to the freezing works. However, they are being experimented on too.  - listen

Vegan and Vegetarian choices - Tara is a vegan (and I myself, have not been a red meat eater or eaten poultry for 41 years.)

Also mentioned is Geoffrey Hodson who spent his last years living in NZ, giving lectures and sharing his knowledge.

Geoffrey Hodson. Was a clairvoyant who could see the dark 'thought forms’ above all freezing works or abattoirs across NZ -  he realised clearly that animals had a soul or group consciousness. As a Theosophist in those days - he understood that animals were sentient beings and needed to be treated with respect. He was one of the few people on earth at the time who could see through the veils of the world into different, higher realms.

A very thought provoking interview from a strong and articulate advocate that needs to be shared across greater NZ and beyond.

Nov 21, 2018

Weather forecasters and meteorological services are equally puzzled and in many ways shrug this off to 'climate change' and the increase of greenhouse gasses. Yet, some argue - this is an easy way out.

However, more astute researchers, albeit some amateurs among them are noticing many irregularities and are finding certain weather patterns incongruent with normal meteorological ones.  

Global weather systems are definitely changing, but so is the geophysical realm as well.

In this interview Nigel informs about some of the variables that seem to stand out as being very irregular.

He also talks about his prediction regarding the 2016 Kaikoura earthquake in the South Island of New Zealand.

Based around a supermoon and various weather patterns and ‘anomalies' that could not be explained and he tells how when he went to the NZ Met service to share his insights that they, in his words 'mocked him' when he tells them of his research .

He uses the example of boom box stereo in cars – you know - boooom booom boombth boooom vibration that shakes the windows and floor of your car in the next lane – and there are also other frequencies that can vibrate at other levels. With seismic testing (in this case for oil) and the added influence of lunar forces, tides and gravity etc he said that:

"These earthquakes are not man made - but man induced".

The interview covers new technologies from Tesla to HAARP as well as what the human race has to do to become aware. Especially that secret military budgets, are sucking up money that know one knows what it is being spent on.

Is Our Government Intentionally Hiding $21 Trillion In Spending?

Jul 21, 2018 - This column is co-authored with Mark Skidmore, a Professor of Economics at Michigan State University.

Also, that with such overwhelming information that we individually have to become 'fully resourced within.' That at heart we need to have a very strong determination not to allow these subjects to take us down. Having purpose and a spiritual resolve is an imperative during these tumultuous of times.

International Media

When the Earthquake happened in Kaikoura NZ on the 14 November 2016, Nigel received a lot of international media attention after his predictive Facebook post on 6th November. However, he talks of attacks on his character, both public and private. He said he just wants to know what’s going on in the world. He is just inquisitive to how nature and life works.

Note, Steffan Browning the ex Member of Parliament for the NZ Green Party mentioned that there was a large floating oil corporation ‘seismic’ barge situated off the East coast of South Island between Christchurch and Kaikoura around the time of the earthquake.

The interview covers Fake News but also a 'Heads Up’ to what may be actually happening.

Fake News is now a global phenomenon  – that much of the MSN news, especially beamed to homes in the US and Europe is based on fear and terror.

Mentioned also is the HAARP facility in Alaska – High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program  (do the research) plus other international facilities and more new advanced technologies that are now being deployed. Though not mentioned in this interview, researchers think that there could be 100 portable HAARP units being deployed globally. Not only in the USA.    link is below *

That the tech is becoming so advanced that we do not know what weapons are being used  - like space based weapons on orbiting platforms that are testing and using plasma technology.

Weather and Frequency Wars

When perusing photos of the sky zig zag patterns – and waves – can be seen plus seine waves – being curved and also sawtooth and triangular waves plus square waves  or half rectangle – showing very crisp lines between clouds and blue sky – and these he states are not natural cloud formations. That they are perturbed clouds that in some instances make the clouds look like waves.

He mentions that NZ could be influenced by 'frequency systems' based in Australia affecting our Tasman Sea weather patterns and NZ being possibly having/relying on a certain amount or quotient of precipitation. (rain) This statement was not pursued, however this information may become more known in the future. He said that there are many non disclosed weather experiments happening. That time has to be taken in studying the large number of weather photographs and the complexity of how these systems constantly flow in and out. Plus he is not privy to many photos as they may be censored or just not posted on the web.

Secret Projects

Also discussed are 'dark projects' – of the secretive military industrial experiments – using high orbit space base weapons - that there seems to be some 'Directed Energy Events' involved with California's wildfires – that many people are realising could be caused by certain factions testing their technologies.

Called directed energy weapons – is one of the new technologies and Nigel gives a run down that says that the use of lasers, particle beam tech, plasma weapons, microwave and a whole assortment of direct energy systems are part of the US ‘defence’ departments secretive experimental arsenal.   

It is important to know that weather warfare is not a new concept.

U.S. Military Wants to Own the Weather - › Science & Astronomy

Oct 31, 2005 - U.S. Air Force Defense Meteorological Satellite Program (DMSP) satellites compared “lights at night” images before and after Hurricane Katrina disaster. ... In fact, military officials and weather modification experts could be on the verge of joining forces to better gauge, react ...

The Ultimate Weapon of Mass Destruction: "Owning the Weather" for ...

For years now steering hurricanes in certain directions has been high on the military agenda.

On the West Coast of the US there has been devastating forest fires in the town of Paradise and previously in Redding and there are still ongoing investigations as to what  were the really cause or multiple causes. That weather fronts flowing from west to east across the North Pacific ocean towards Canada and America seem to always be held back, as if hitting an invisible wall - that this ‘suspension’ of rain fronts are seen to be the cause of the droughts in California.

But is this at all credible? Who would believe such statements?

Then we talk about who would believe this – this is so dark that people just don’t want to know. Who would want to research such nefarious and subversive subject matter?  

We then covered how to understand this subject without being taken down or becoming depressed.

Becoming aware yet staying strong and well fulfilled within

So we talked about inner discipline – becoming well resourced so as to keep in our heart.

Also, to awaken people to the shadow side of life if we want to bring peace to the world especially for all children.

Nigel opens up to express how he sees existence - saying 'life is a game' – and we need to be one step ahead of the game – by knowing what is happening and that it is still unwritten. That we are the writers of the script – 'that we are spiritual beings having an earth experience' and so we need to always be beyond becoming a victim.

Honouring Activists

He tells of an award system he is developing called ‘Levelling the Playing Field’ honouring activists and being rewarded with recognition and prizes.

That when activists keep the subject matter in the public mind, eventually the Government will in the face of overwhelming evidence do something like ban certain deleterious activities  

Asbestos, thalidomide and DDT  - have seen to be detrimental to health and human life and finally become banned.

This was both an interesting as well as overwhelming subject to bring to the public consciousness. You will never hear national radio from all the differing stations across NZ discussing such a subject other than* to dismiss it or to contemptuously disparage it. However, with $21 trillion in the US been hidden from the public of that country, you would think that this would be an exceptionally subject that the media in NZ would want to bring to public arena. This is what we are dealing with today. Be it fake news (distraction) or censoring by omission which, is very predominant not only in NZ, but in Western media globally.

* - state that they are the most alternative radio station in NZ.   

And on occasions play radio shows to their central Waikato listening audience.


Facebook page – weatherwars international        Rick Duart     *

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NOT MENTIONED We must always be conscious that the use of super computers to run scenarios is always a major fundamental in the secretive defence and space based as well as financial scenarios. These supercomputers situated in all major countries are being used 24/7 to work out ‘best case scenarios’ - or ‘worse case’ - depending on what devilish scheme or chain of events that are being envisioned.  

We also did not get around to mentioning the assault on the world whales and dolphin population – the cetaceans. The US Navy, but most probably other navies are using high powered sonar and other radar technologies to hunt for submarines silently submerged possibly half a kilometre down in the ocean depths. These electronic intrusions are having a horrendous impact on the cetacean population as they have such ‘sensitive hearing’ that they are picking up mans increasing technology interference that is violating their right to live unharmed anywhere in the earth’s oceans.

Nov 15, 2018

This farming method initiated by Rudolf Steiner is more than a profound holistic farming modality, as it includes organic produce, energising water, halting soil erosion, building compost heaps and especially its far reaching ways in pest management and control. But more so, human health and well being opens up spiritual qualities that allows us to recognise our connection between heaven and earth.

Peter Bacchus has been involved in biodynamics for over 65 years with an uncle going to Europe in 1924 to learn of this system, and then his father travelling to England to follow up on this in 1938. After the war returning to NZ, where he incorporated it into his own farm. So having been embedded in Biodynamics all his life, Peter has a wealth of information and knowningness as to its efficacy.

At heart we all know that the present global ecological situation is precarious, yet governments also are not focussing on the seriousness of the planetary environment. With huge swathes of tropical forests still being logged and barely a murmur. We are learning of habitat loss, acid seas, weather patterns gone awry - if we want to initiate change, we are obliged to make this happen at the grassroots level.

With Biodynamic farming, not only is Co2 sequestered into the soil, but so is nitrogen pulled out of the atmosphere to supplement plant growth. That the use of natural methods to pull down nitrogen, which comprises 80% of the atmosphere, is far superior to the ‘manufactured’ methods of nitrogen fixing.

in 2024, it will be 100 years since Biodynamics was introduced to the world by Rudolf Steiner.  Peter posits the possibility of Biodynamics engaging in a large global promotion of the many modalities that are embedded in this unique and sensible farming method.

Main Points:

Burying Cow Horns

In this interview Peter talks about the use of cow horns which are filled with cow dung and buried for a certain period. He goes on to say that with exact measuring and the addition of other refinements, this dung is added to water that is also quantified and then continuously stirred for an hour. After which, say for a local garden, one can take a brush like a hearth brush dip it in the solution and then flicked over the surrounding vegetation. Where tiny droplets land all over the foliage and begins a certain affect. That translates to healthy, abundant growth of said plants, vegetables etc

This is called 500 and there is another caled 501 that is made of ground down quartz until its molecular constituents is that of a powder.   Listen   

Water Energising

Flow forms to oxygenate water -This is a natural means to oxygenate water and entrain frequency back into the water. Covering memory of water etc  (see Viktor Schauberger) excellent for bring back to life effluent ponds and sewage waste.  Listen

Soil Rejuvenation

Earthworms activation occurs after the 500/1 preparations - Peter tells of worm casting that we so thick they were like a sheet over the ground to likening it to  spreading of marmite over a sandwich - it was so effective.

Soil bacteria and fungi and the imperative to include the microorganisms of the soil are explained as the foundation of all land use. Listen  

Financial Reward and the viability of healthy vital premium organic food.

It is a proven fact that biodynamics and organic food brings a far higher monetary return than industrial factory food that is chemically laden. More money can be made because quality produce fetches higher prices.

Demeter is the the Greek goddess of the harvest and presides over grains and the fertility of the earth. Although she was most often referred to as the goddess of the harvest, she was also goddess of sacred law and the cycle of life and death.

What is Demeter in NZ?

Demeter is a world wide certification system, used to verify to the consumers in over 50 countries that food or product has been produced by biodynamic methods. The Bio Dynamic Farming and Gardening Association is the certifier in New Zealand. (The Association registered Demeter as a certification trademark in 1984.) Inspectors visit the operators (farmers and processors) annually to collect information about their methods. A committee of assessors then decides whether to grant certification. Most committee members are experienced biodynamic farmers and/or processors.

Nov 7, 2018

Richard is a former Major in the British Army’s Coldstream Guards. He embarked on a quest to find respite from the psychological injuries of war by walking the length of NZ.

As a United Nations peacekeeper, Richard spent seven months in war-ravaged Central Bosnia during the winter of 1993-1994.

He and his troops were tasked to deliver life-saving humanitarian aid to trapped and starving civilians. This meant negotiating with militia leaders- as well as criminals, warlords and their followers, some of whom were under the influence of drugs and alcohol.

Their job also entailed protecting aid delivery routes, scouting for new routes and escorting UN and EU human rights monitors and war crimes investigators through volatile areas.

As well, they supported the numerous NGOs, such as Save the Children, Feed the Children, Medicin Sans Frontiers and Oxfam, by providing security and protection.

Richard’s rifle company came under fire from machine guns, mortars and shells. At times, they had to return fire within strict Rules of Engagement.

They also had to deal with “mission creep” as they maintained the balance between peacekeeping and peace enforcement.

All this was done during a severe winter and in mountainous terrain, on poor roads, with mines and IEDs (improvised explosive devices) an ever present danger and in full view of the international media.

At the peak of his command, Richard led about 220 men and women, including local interpreters.

He took his responsibilities seriously and knew that every decision could result in the injury or loss of life of those under his command. These responsibilities peaked when he and his men liberated and defended a besieged Muslim enclave in Maglaj.

During his tour of duty, Richard witnessed the worst that people can do to each other as well as many examples of courage and selflessness.

About six months after leaving Central Bosnia, Richard developed severe symptoms of post-traumatic stress injury.

However, like many servicemen, he considered mental illness shameful and harmful to his career. As a result, it took him eight years to seek professional help.

In this interview Richard talks about how PTSI develops in some people and not in others. He explains how the survival “Fight, Flight, Freeze” stress response hijacks the mind of the PTSI sufferer and how to release it.  

He explores how lack of sleep, nightmares and flashbacks erodes the health, energy and willpower of someone in the grip of PTSI.

This brings up the topic of suicide in the veteran community, and more broadly within NZ as a whole.

Research indicates that about 200,000 NZers think about taking their own lives every day.

The comedian, radio presenter and suicide prevention spokesperson Mike King says that around  2,000 people attempt it and a certain amount actually die by their own hand. (NZ has one of the highest suicide and self-harm rates in the developed world.)

Richard has long since left the Army. He is now a mental health counsellor on Waiheke Island where he specialises in the treatment of stress-related patterns of depression, anxiety and anger, including recovery from trauma.  

A dedicated community volunteer, he serves on the committee of The Friends of McKenzie Nature Reserve and within the Waiheke Island RSA.

He is actively involved in campaigns to help Waiheke Island become the world’s first predator-free and Dark Sky sanctuary urban island, as well as the campaign to prevent the spread of Kauri Dieback disease.

He is a keen proponent of eco-therapy. In this model, stressed out people heal themselves through activities that restore stressed-out land to health.

Richard founded the NZ charitable Trust, Walk Off War, to highlight and provide information about the recovery and prevention of psychological trauma, especially through connecting people with the natural world.

The idea for the Trust developed during a four month solo walk down the length of New Zealand a few years ago. Richard embarked on the hike to test the idea that nature immersion can cure modern stress-related maladies, including poor mental health.

Enroute, he discovered that walking in wilderness-  as our Stone Age ancestors did for millennia - gave him much-needed relief and healing from his war experiences. The beneficial effects lasted about two years and, with regular ‘top ups’, they continue to this day.

Richard says that even though the mental injury of war is painful and life-limiting, it ultimately offers a gift.

Trauma  can make us more human and understanding of others. It forces us to focus on what is truly important in life and to strip away unnecessary complications and possessions.

He also believes that when you are surrounded by beauty, bird sound, and natural colours, you can regain a profound sense of gratitude for what nature provides. It is our ancestral home and the source from which we spring. It is where anyone can walk off their war and step toward peace.

About Walk Off War

Walk Off War is a project with charitable status headquartered on Waiheke Island here in New Zealand. Initiated by Richard Margesson, Walk Off War aims to raise awareness about post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) for those on the front lines of public service.

Nov 1, 2018

There is no such thing, as ‘public’ transport in Auckland.

The trains, buses and ferry services are publically subsidised, but privately owned, operated and managed, passenger transport operators.

Auckland Transport won't reveal how many public millions are being paid to subsidise private passenger transport, on top of their private profits.

Their books are not open - regarding the millions of public monies paid to subsidise these private passenger transport operators.

Auckland Transport won't reveal how many public millions are being paid to subsidise private passenger transport, on top of their private profits. Their books are not open - regarding the public monies paid to subsidise these private passenger transport operators.

State Capture' is where corporate vested interests get their way, at the policy level of council or government, in order to get laws passed that serve their interests.

With whom are the policy analysts consulting, before legislation goes through the council’s machine?

These are issues that both Lisa Prager and Penny Bright have been exposing.

Here’s an example: Auckland Transport has appointed Shane Ellison as its new Chief Executive. Prior to 2011 Mr Ellison was located in Paris with Transdev where he was responsible for global corporate development and innovation. Transdev (previously Veolia) runs Auckland’s trains!

Agenda 21

Associate Minister for Transport, Green Party MP, Julianne Genter is married to Peter Munns who is principal economist for MRCagney that advises Auckland Transport on cycle ways.

Perhaps Auckland’s push to create cycleways, when our aging sewage system is polluting our harbours, shows an ideology that is not allowing for a balanced use of Auckland Council / Auckland Transport’s money but rather a determination to get people out of their cars. This Lisa explains is part of Agenda 21, which New Zealand, and Auckland, are signed up to.

Lisa is a bike rider and is not against cycle ways. However when they go through shopping areas and take parking from local businesses they are destroying community and people’s livelihoods. Shops lose custom and so close down.

Their landlords then have to sell their properties cheaply to developers who then build blocks of flats, says Lisa, and our Australian shopping malls will expand to accommodate the population.

Mature trees are also being cut down. The whole cycleway project is ill thought out as shown in this article in Spinoff.

Lisa is also concerned at the spraying of glyphosate by Auckland Transport’s contractors – Fulton Hogan. The WHO has labelled glyphosate as probably carcinogenic but there is evidence that problems don’t just end there. Yet Aucklanders are having it sprayed on parks and berms all over the city.

Lisa Prager is an artist, sculptor, award winning documentary maker and proud co- owner of Garnet Station cafe/bistro in Westmere.

She trained as an actor in the late 70's at Theatre Corporate in Auckland, but left to become a political activist & pop artist.

Involved with Wake Up Auckland in the early 2000's she challenged Les Mills & Auckland Council's homophobic attitude towards the Hero Parade and homosexuality.

She stood with others against John Banks and the sale of pensioner/affordable housing and the actions of Auckland Council & Auckland Transport to transfer public assets into private hands.

She stood with others to fight the sale of airport shares, the privatisation of Westhaven Marina and the ideology behind the badly designed, unsafe, overpriced cycleways. Lisa supports a nationwide tree protection policy and replanting Native Bush not pines to fight climate change.

She is Currently Spokesperson for Occupy Garnet Rd movement.

This Link below explains the graphic on the top of the page

Oct 25, 2018

We only had 55 minutes to cover such a vast subject as there are many varying species in NZ. Having the largest number of different sea birds on earth - around our shores.

The number of introduced birds into NZ are many, including vagrants and migrants and the total number comes up to 435 different species. A vagrant is a bird that unexpectedly shows up – like the Laughing Gull that breeds on the prairies of the mid Western states of North America. Last year found in Opotiki in the Bay of Plenty.

NZ is the seabird capital of the world. 1/3 of seabird species on earth, visit or breed in our region

NZ albatross numbers are the highest on earth

NZ fairy tern now with only 40 in existence

51 NZ birds have gone extinct over time

Some Aotearoan birds may have become extinct due to disease from an introduced bird species.  

Yet, we have not had an extinction of an endemic bird since 1970  - of the Bush Wren

Kakapo flightless parrot numbers are 154 after dropping to about 45.

The Chatham Island Black Robin went down to a total of 5 birds and yet it recovered with adept human management  - now 250 - though - problems with diversity due to a small DNA base.

Little spotted kiwi – (only about 1900 birds now) where once there could have been millions.

There are 5 species on Kiwi plus various subspecies

That wild ducks can fly over 1000 kilometres and more.   

This is a good information - too much to list here so I encourage you to listen to this interesting interview as to what’s happening in NZ, what birds are increasing and decreasing - about offshore island sanctuaries, what pests are having to be dealt with and other ways about getting New Zealanders to become far more interested and involved.

Especially in how birds and their morning sound welcome the new day, and assist us with insect control, scattering seed and pollinating flowers.

Oct 17, 2018

With stress, depression and health issues nearly becoming the norm in our 21st century contemporary society - ‘there is fortunately another way out.’ This is by taking a sacred journey into the very being of nature, where it begins with stepping out of our daily routines, strict plans, work and ‘to do’ lists, allowing space for the great mystery to be our guide.

Osher River Oriyah is an intuitive healer, author, storyteller, performing artist, and early childhood specialist based on Waiheke Island. Michael Fleck is co-founder of Good Company Pacific Cultural Journeys.

Why do people go on retreats, pilgrimages, hikoi, and sacred journeys?  What is it that calls them and beckons them to step onto the sacredness of this path of the natural world and into places for deep healing and inner peace. A safe place, where we recover our essential joy and purpose, and at the same time, activate the healing of our mother planet? Yet more so, that behind the filmiest of screens awaits yet another world, and the question - who are our ‘hidden’ companions?

Osher who originally comes from Israel in many ways a desert country, went to the US and there met with Native American women who changed her perception about life – from the standpoint of recognising the natural world – where nature was alive!  And where nature held a key to her wellbeing, happiness and joy.

That also inside her she became aware of a great teacher that connected with her spiritual unfoldment within the new paradigm of love and unity. This being based on moving away from fear and into love whilst living in a day to day existence.

Michael – originally from the US, previously had taken Hawaiian elders and kahunas to Rarotonga for a Pacifica festival – and that it shaped his wanting to do the same through Aotearoa, by taking people out of the ordinary – beyond our everyday perceptions and intuitively tune into the vastness of natures process. To make a connection to this country and to see the natural beauty as being sacred. In particular, working with the group dynamics of everyone in that group ‘having an intention’ to want to ‘be together’ and be in a mindful state - to see and experience the sacred in everything. Thus lifting one’s state of being and allow one to ‘feel’ the subtle energies that most of us miss, that yet have always been embedded in nature’s beauty.  

That the participants over time during these journeys, in melting into nature, become inevitably transformed in mysterious ways and shifts their awareness to realise a spiritual connection especially to the land and mother earth.  Hence they are called sacred journeys. Nurturing us in a supportive group setting – all intent in growing their inner capacity to love and express newly realised joy.

Michael - In setting the field states; there are both man made energy fields and natural fields that surround us and a sacred journey is one where we step into the natural field of energies and for a small window in time, bathe our being in bird songs, insects sound, whispering waters and fragrant blossom scents.
He mentions insect sounds like crickets chirping when slowed down to the same correlation of a human life to a cricket’s life - time wise – the sounds of those crickets sound like angelic music. Gary Cook’s ‘soft wired’ up trees, emit much melodic like sound, too.

That we are totally surrounded by information 360 degrees and are inundated by the information age too, but we are missing out on the elemental kingdom.

Osher - Talks of her sacred journey into the unseen, that when she removed herself from the day to day basics of ordinary life and stepped over the threshold into the realm of the elemental world. Her journey was one of healing post traumatic stress from her mind to finally enter the heart and it open up a connection to become more at one to nature via the sacredness of this journey. Dropping out of the mundane – all her beliefs that she had - created fell away.

Osher tells of her connection to the elemental kingdom and what the Aotearoan maori call the Patupaiarehe or Tūrehu the fairy folk – listen

Of karakia - prayer, is very important to do when – visiting sacred trees, rivers, power points, situations, views, beaches, portals, and intuitively breaking out into singing spontaneous song.

In the shade of a giant kauri and having reverence for the forest giant Osher said she was told that the reason why the kauri’s were dying is because ‘the humans species vision is dying’ – due to disconnection from the grandeur and magnificence of nature and her exquisite beauty.

Michael - “We can empty ourselves of all that contemporary culture pours into us, and in that emptiness, we recognise the everpresent subtle rhythms and songs of the natural world, bathing us in refreshing innocence and delight.”

This is exceptionally important to acknowledge, as we need to soften and allow a warm and curious innocence to take place.

Osher - yes! And open to more play and playfulness – having been born in Israel, with its conflicts – Osher’s journey – finally into nature here in NZ softened and healed her heart and it softened to where she is now engaging with natures unfoldment and sharing this awareness with journeys into the natural realm of the forests, rivers and sacred places throughout NZ.

Seriousness has fallen away to be replaced with joy and laughter

Osher tells story of her contact with the elementals in Coromandel and that they save two songs with her  - Listen

In today’s world intuition has been replaced by thinking – the so called left brain – that is very linear and focused on detail such as measuring and quantifying, where as the intuitive opens us wider to a greater vision plus poetic inspiration …

Osher talks about the healing virtues of nature, of Gaia (Mother Earth) and from her previous challenges coming out of war torn Israel – that if she can through nature and song, heal her being - she openly states - that anyone can – all they need to do is take that journey into the natural realm, into the garden again. We just have to have faith that we can heal our being and once again find our heart and that when caressed by nature’s symphony of outrageous beauty – healing can take place for joy to burst forth – we  … just need to take that leap!

She mentions her up and coming sacred journey through the Coromandel that people can join. Plus the wisdom from the plant kingdom and plant medicine, that can be learnt along the way.

A Sacred Journey into Native Plant and Song Medicine

                                         November 7-11, 2018

5 different gifted people, giving 5 half day workshops over 5 days

Come and step out into the unknown ...

Contact:    Michael :
        Osher - FB - Inner Spring Or Healing Quest Coromandel

Oct 11, 2018

Last century, NZ became the first major country to become Nuclear Free. Thanks to the work of dedicated activists supported by thousands of ordinary New Zealanders we are still essentially GE & GMO Free today, too.

Can we quickly mobilise the populace, especially loving mothers, so as to empower all district councils, towns and cities nationwide to enact laws against the rollout of 5 G wireless networks?

The propaganda war is increasing exponentially as financially flush Telcos, like Spark, Vodafone and 2 Degrees - ‘spin’ the benefits of streaming nonstop media to our smartphones and target our unknowing youth.

All the while they are saturating the environment and us with intensifying frequencies from ubiquitous cell phone towers…Now they are planning to place new more powerful radiation-emitting “small cells” around 250 metres apart in our cities and towns.

Yet, we have not been told of the ‘health benefits' - as there are none!

On the contrary, knowledgeable scientists and health professionals have been warning us against this coming technology as the wireless industry has migrated from 1G to 2G to 3G and 4G. .

Now “Big Wireless” wants to introduce 5G and flood our neighbourhoods with even more wireless radiation whilst at the same time cancer and ill effects keep escalating countrywide. This is also now slowly overwhelming NZ’s ‘free’ national health system.

No, this is not a scare tactic - do the research yourself.

150 years ago - there was no microwave radiation other than extremely low levels from the sun and an occasional pulsar in space - coming in from millions of light years away.

Now we are metaphorically wading through a jelly of accelerating magnitude of microwaves and other artificial forms of electromagnetic radiation - and the general health and wellbeing of the populace has not been taken into consideration.

Nor has the health of nature, the biota within the biosphere such as animals and especially your pets, your cats and dogs - plus insects, bees and all trees and plants.

Where is the scientific evidence proving that this latest technology is safe?

It is known (listen to the interview) that the telecommunications industry along with broadcasting - be it TV or radio and in particular the relationship to ‘smart’ phones – had a huge amount of influence in the development of the current standards in NZ as to what sort of level of microwave and other wireless radiation is acceptable and where cellular phone infrastructure can be sited.

There was negligible input from people who were advocates for ‘human health’ involved in the process of setting NZ’s current standards.

This was an ‘inside’ job, almost completely focussed on how it would benefit the telecommunications industry and profits. What this means that essentially no consideration to ‘due diligence’ or ‘the precautionary principle’ was taken in relation to biological life - meaning we humans!

So how do we relay this information to ordinary New Zealanders when we realise that MSM, mainstream media, the Fourth Estate have reneged on their duties to inform you the public.

Well, just like the many loving mothers and concerned ordinary New Zealanders back in the 1980’s who did not want to be targeted in a nuclear war between the USA and the Soviet Union - when we had no say what so ever in the matter other than we were obliged to go and do whatever America decreed.

So thoughtful New Zealanders became activated and banded together over tea and coffee and gatherings or all manner of situations to convince local council, boroughs, towns and eventually city councillors to enact Nuclear Free Zones across the whole country.

That finally when around 105 councils across the nation representing about 76% of the electorate happened, it gave the mandate to David Lange, Prime Minister of the 4th Labour Government to make NZ - ‘Nuclear Free NZ.’ And be a beacon of peace to the world.

This continues to be followed up in relation to becoming a GE and GMO Free country as well. With Hastings/Napier becoming GE Free, and all of Northland now becoming the largest GE Free area in New Zealand.

However we have arrived at a crunch time.

The previous NZ National Government in realising that people power was still prevalent and that GE Free activists were writing submissions, signing petitions and attending meetings and gatherings to advise and invigorate local Councils - that ordinary citizens did not want this unhealthy biotech in their regions.

The Government took action. They decided to keep ‘control’ of the narrative by endeavouring to usurp the power of local councils, towns and cities from governing their own local areas and regions. The Government wanted to prohibit councils from passing by-laws banning GE and GMO’s. Fortunately the High Courts of the land sided with the Councils.

However, we cannot be at all sure how the present Government will react to such a powerful global technology that is omnipresent and in everyone’s lives.

Why? Because (with the exception of putting out a consultation which appears to have been basically intended to elicit feedback from the telecommunications industry) they have remained deathly silent all of this year!

So the game plan is to share this information as much as possible especially texting this to family members and talk about this at the table, when hanging out with friends - because there is an imperative for New Zealanders to come together, share, cooperate and collaborate and start the movement to make NZ a 5G Free Country.

There is a 5G information website for NZ which is

Oct 4, 2018

The pivotal story around Transhumanism is between those who believe in a soul or a spiritual connection to those who are essentially atheists and believe that once we die we exist no more.  Hence the need for people who do not want to die and cease forever, is that they continue their life by endeavoring to shift their consciousness into a machine or robot.

This interview neatly intersects with last weeks interview with Roy Harlow on Artificial Intelligence - AI - so if you enjoy this interview - you will really get a hit from Roys powerful interview.

This is one version of how Transhumanism is perceived:

The Transhumanist agenda is more than just Artificial Intelligence (AI), or robots taking over human jobs, or transgender restrooms at public facilities to accommodate an ever growing push for uniformity among the masses.

Transhumanism is Posthumanism. It is humanism with the optimism taken out, a movement that advocates for the transformation and the “advancement of humanity through technology” that runs the gamut from nanotechnology to AI. This paradigm is not limited to gadgets and medicine but also molds social, economic, cultural, institutional design, language, and the psyche.

To be clear, Transhumanism is a manufactured endpoint to human evolution…

Rosanne Lindsay, ND

This is the Technocratic viewpoint:

Transhumanism is a way of thinking about the future that is based on the premise that the human species in its current form does not represent the end of our development but rather a comparatively early phase.

Transhumanism is a loosely defined movement that has developed gradually over the past two decades.

Transhumanism is a class of philosophies of life that seek the continuation and acceleration of the evolution of intelligent life beyond its currently human form and human limitations by means of science and technology, guided by life-promoting principles and values.

Max More (1990)

The conjoining of man and machine?

Today’s technologies are becoming so much part of our daily life, many futurists and technologists see a time when humans will merge with machines, or is it that machines will merge with humans?  We already have heart pacemakers, artificial knees, ear pieces, teeth implants etc, whilst the list becomes longer each year.

So the gulf between “human” and “machine” is closing. Machine learning has enabled virtual reality to feel more “real” than ever before, and AI’s  replication of processes that were once confined to the human brain is ever-improving. Both are bringing technology into ever-closer proximity with the human body.

Bringing in Balance?

Regarding the human condition, there is a lot of focus placed on basic computational skills of our left frontal lobes - but it needs to be balanced by emotional intelligence which is part of our intelligence and in more common parlance our heads and hearts have to be working together - and that is true intelligence

What is Soul and what is Consciousness?

So, what is soul and what is consciousness? We need to extend this debate - hugely - what is the primacy of consciousness to the extent - is consciousness all there is?  That beneath the subatomic realm into the quantum field - does this connect at the deepest level into - consciousness? Sir Arthur Eddington said, ‘the stuff of the universe is mind stuff’ whilst Sir James Jeans said; ‘the universes was one great thought.”  

Robin mentions that we also need to consider that our intelligence also involves compassion, care and love and it is so important as we embark in this new era of the computerised realm and that we must not lose our humanity - which is hugely important for our survival as a species and our planet’s  survival as a habitat for biota, but we also have a responsibility of guardianship - as well as for our flora and fauna - and that is only sensible because they look after us.`

‘Out of the body” and “near death” experiences confirm that humans have a detachable consciousness. (Soul Travel?)

‘Out of the body’ and ‘near death' experiences are now experienced by more and more people  (as the world population expands)

We have to cover the important information of ‘near death’ and ‘out of the body experiences.’ as the information that the experiencer relays, after the event is incontrovertible There is now ample data on people from all cultures and all walks of life experiencing looking down at their bodies, be it a sports field, a car crash, a heart attack or stroke or being operated on in a hospital. The question then who is that ‘I’?

That from a standpoint of soul or a spiritual body signifies that even the non material or non corporeal body can ‘not only see, but remember as well.’

See Dr’s Raymond Moody, Kenneth Ring and Elizabeth Kubler-Ross. Who have spent their life times researching this astounding subject. Then from the doubters viewpoint - that all people who say such things is that they were hallucinating and that the mind is playing tricks on them. Even though the people who were looking down on their bodies remember very clearly all the very concerned conversations that were happening as the doctors frantically worked at keeping their body alive. Telling them afterwards what exclamations were said and what particular actions and even mistakes were made. That upon ‘coming back’ - come out of it and they know it was ‘ Not time for them' - and they also never fear death as being the end.

After experiencing these paranormal events, they become infused with compassion as well as a knowingness that will never allow them to doubt - and that life after death is a certainty.

The ‘Precautionary Principle’

If we are going to be ‘smart’ about all this - we need to be cautious as to how machines ‘blend’ with humans - if that’s the right word says Robin. What about purpose, compassion and intent - what does it feel to be full and feel joy and fulfilment? Do we through our unknowingness allow certain things to filter into our consciousness - our ordinary day awareness - and conversely what are we finding out and also letting in. Are we conduits or walking antennae? Many mystics would agree.

Like when we are asleep or meditating. What are the processes? Like at one end of the colour spectrum we have infrared and the other end - ultraviolet - animals and insects perceive certain colours and hear certain sounds that are of a different frequency - yet we humans cannot.

So as we embark into augmenting what it is to be human into machines - we humans may be so unknowing especially of what is life and the ‘feelings’ of what it is to live, to have children and to die  That this all may be sublimated by the workings of an austere stark, machine intelligence.

The Transhuman Perspective

Covering Ray Kersweil of Google as one of the more out there proponents of Trans humanism - and his statement is about the great coming ‘singularity’ where computer intelligence will completely leapfrog/bypass human intellect and capabilities.  

Breakthroughs in biological engineering are coming so fast we can’t predict how they will develop going forward. Crispr, a new type of gene editing technology is transforming our ability to design and edit the genome, was completely unanticipated; experts thought it was impossible ... until it wasn’t. Next-generation gene sequencing is decreasing in price, far faster than Moore’s Law for processors. In many ways, bioengineering is moving faster than computing. Today most promising of nine broad approaches to mortality and aging are genome stability, telomere extension, epigenetics, proteostasis, caloric restriction, mitochondrial research, cell senescence, stem cell exhaustion, and intercellular communication. So with Silicon Valley awash with ideas and scenarios  - especially how to integrate nanotechnology into the human body, you can see the artificial excitement of Transhumanism as tantalising for those who either don’t believe in soul, or those that just want to tinker and make fast, big money.

The philosophical ramifications are huge with this current momentum of the fusion of science, technology with biological processes. However, will it be one we sincerely trust that will address societal inequities, the retention of the richness and diversity of our natural systems and indigenous cultures, rather than the somewhat simple and sterile dysfunctional futures depicted by many science fiction writers and futurists. We have to recognise that our navel, our belly button connects us to the magic of the past of spiralling DNA, the family tree and the lineage of species  and not only celebrate our diversity within nature - but to honour it and reconnect with the sacred in all of this. All the way back to the accreting gases and cosmic dust to the molten metals of an early forming Mother earth and before that - to stardust and the big bang, the so called ‘source of it all.’

5 G the Fifth Generational Wireless and Computer Network Technologies

5 G Wifi comes up again as a major component and enabler to AI and robots by numbers - allied to the internet of all things  - working on wavelengths in millimetres - needing antenna and relay stations every 50 metres or so - outside everyone’s house - connecting everything to everything - driverless cars totally under control - all ambulances given right of way and it is all under control. But, if you are a suspect - the driverless car could, upon a command, lock all the doors and windows and drive you to the local police station.

However with 5 G as most people have smartphones, we are all tracked and could be ‘corrected’ remotely - and sadly even our brain waves monitored. Yet, a spin will be put on all this to tell us how very helpful this technology is going to be. First the hand hold phone, then the glasses and the watch - then the body suit and finally the tiny implant under our skin. The ubiquitous use and interface with these technologies is going to be everywhere.

Meanwhile quantum theory entanglement - that every thing in theory is connected within the universal - or background field, is omnipresent yet little understood, is also present.

Back to 5 G - we will have faster download speeds - so that information is streaming in at us from all directions so that we find we are more than triangulated into a frequency storm of microwave data and information. So the health question is what effect is it having on our bodies?

But let’s have the discussion - let’s open this whole story of trans humanism and 5 G as they are essentially all connected - and bring all the information to the world public.

Transhumanists, virtually all being atheistic - see the total zenith - the hopeful evolutionary capacity - as being held in our heads and our brains. (note that the heart brain and the gut brain are definitely not included in this equation.)    

The Heart's Intuitive Intelligence: A path to personal, social and global coherence

Eastern Philosophies and Acupuncture

Robin talks about the process of emotions etc plus the Eastern philosophies and understanding of the human body - being energetic first and material second - like in acupuncture, that is connected by hidden meridians that Western Science still has huge difficulties with. That through meditation - and getting our brain out of the way - allows our creativity to come through.

That we need to be in a state of peace and compassion

Whereas transhumanists who do not appear to enter deep states of meditation and enter other deeper realms of consciousness - instead think that by marrying up to computer chips etc that by this technology - they will instead not miss out in other ‘aspects’ of life.  There is a wanting of more - before it is too late and they die - to then basically wipe their hard drive and end the program.

Another aspect is that in wanting to get people interested in this tech program is to have people dissatisfied with their life - to want more by way of a computer chip upgrade. And that sets the scene for addictive activities. See last weeks interview with Roy Harlow.

Hence the global encouragement for hand held machines and smart phones so that the youth become wedded to these technologies - so that they will not put them down - that they may pick them up hundreds of times a day - pearing in for a magic formula so as to find happiness and fulfilment.

Then you are convinced that you don’t need to hold it in your hand -and have it as glasses - i.e google glass, to Apple Watch on your skin and finally what about a little tiny implant - the size of a rice grain - that can hold huge amounts of information with heaps of up-loadable space - and if you do - you can receive benefits from certain other hi tech corporations - with big discounts to nightclubs and drinks or be able to jump the queue and get into a rock concert before most others. That may morph very quickly to rebates on home rates, no or lower charges for credit cards - all sort of methods to lure the unsuspecting into being chipped and unknowingly becoming like Manchurian candidates for the future.


Robin mentions that addictions are born daily out of loneliness and emptiness - we are never satisfied.  And it is the younger folk - who have missed out on any understanding of the great religions and spiritual teachings that will be targeted by AI and any compelling story about Transhumanism -  the selling point - ‘get it while it’s hot.”

All these scenarios.

The interview also covers Rupert Sheldrake and ‘phantom limbs’  and ‘feelings of being stared at from behind.’

5 G comes up again - many doctors are not satisfied that it is safe - whilst many professionals are relegating it to the field of not being important.  

We are not taking a precautionary - ‘first do no harm” - stand  - primum non nocere  

Is the Latin word that Doctors use.

It is the babies that will be the easily affected by 5 G plus Cats and dogs and bees to the bacteria on our skin.

5th Generation networks are a world wide deployment - being done nearly all at once

Cognitive dissidence on a massive scale is happening and an almost cult like behaviour ‘en masse’ is upon us. That we can impose this technology on our body and TOTALLY improve our lives as a result, is what we are being programmed with.

Robots are now in health systems in the UK talking to patients - devaluing the face to face communications between carer and patient.

Robin talks about ‘human inter-relations - as a doctor to a patient - and sharing a commitment to care - empathy.  However 5 G does penetrate the skin.

The proponents of 5 G say that it does not penetrate the skin very far - however they have a very poor understanding of the ecosystem off the human body - That our skin with billions of invisible bacteria covering us - and we are being irradiated from telephone towers 24/7  plus it is affecting our fertility.

Mothers Love comes up as well.

1984 and Brave New world - a fusion of these two stories is now taking place.  

Have a listen.

This article is not anti atheist per se - My parents were a cross between agnostics and atheists and they were very good, honest, warm, caring people. I have numerous atheistic associates and we by and large see eye to eye on many political, environmental and cultural issues. I interviewed James Lovelock of bringing to us the Gaia Hypothesis many years ago and he said that he was quite happy for his body to return to Mother Earth at the end of his life time, with no expectations of anything else. Tim

Sep 27, 2018

Whilst we, somewhat complacent, especially in the so called developed Western world, indulge ourselves in multiple distractions, Roy lays it out. That AI is virtually ubiquitous and is silently in the background data mining and collating our every move.

The concerning thing is that above the seemingly isolated corporations, charging you for your power, telephone and internet, your downloads, mortgage, rent and rates, plus groceries, and the credit card & EFTpos, banking chatter - of travel, hotels, bottle store, petrol and ‘incidentals’ - what is the ‘super computer’ above all this, beyond Google and the NSA - that’s tapping into it all - into a vast planetary omnipresent - database?

Roy nails it - as we have not been in the loop as to what the corporations have been doing with their technology - especially the Alphabets, plus the British, Chinese, Indians and the Russians.

Computers working in networks for the benefit of the business’s has been doing us well - however, when we give computers autonomy and they are programmed to take care of their own agenda - where will this lead to?

With the advent of algorithms and high speed super computing, the Americans have now jumped back into the lead over the Chinese - with computations of ‘mega billions’ a second - when independent machines can learn to self repair and more.

Registering global volume of calls, clicks and connections - networking on a global scale of all applications linking to a supergrid - the over intelligence - over the top of human knowing - is on its way.

We here at have made a huge effort to get you this information, however we do not have the manpower or the finance to transcribe this all for you. We urge you to just listen for 10 minutes - after that you will realise that you need to listen to it all and catch up on what you are missing.

Do the goals of the computers have the same goals as humans? This is where the challenge appears.

Note, that we do not know who to trust anymore because the economic machine is now too big to stop.

Look at where they are at in America.

Has the nation become stronger as a result of handing over individual power to an ‘outside authority?’

We now live in a nation where doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the press destroys information, religion destroys morals, and our banks destroy the economy. ~  

Chris Hedges The New York Times best-seller; Wages of Rebellion: The Moral Imperative of Revolt(2015); and his most recent America: The Farewell Tour(2018).

The imperative dear reader is to take the red pill and listen to this show. One of the best! 

Roy Harlow -

Sep 20, 2018

There is documented evidence into the unpredictability of genetic engineering. Yet there is mounting pressure for new gene technologies to be used with no regulatory supervision.

Gene editing is the genetic alteration of the natural world.

They are a stage after genetic engineering.

Whatever the size of a change made inside a cell, and some scientists like to say they are very small changes, how can messing with DNA be a safe thing to do, when we increasingly realise the connection between living things.

Organisms are self organising complex systems and so how can it be possibly safe to manipulate and mess with our food and animals?

Prominent International Advocate
Dr Jonathan Latham is a prominent international advocate for public interest science. He is co-founder and Executive Director of the Bioscience Resource Project and the Editor of Independent Science News and Director of the Poison Papers. He is recently been in New Zealand on a speaking tour.

Dr Latham holds a Masters degree in Crop Genetics and a PhD in Plant Virology.  He worked at the Department of Genetics in the University of Wisconsin, Madison, USA. He has published scientific papers in disciplines as diverse as plant ecology, plant virology, toxicology, genetics, and genetic engineering.

In this interview find out the difference between Genetic engineering and gene editing. What is CRISPR – (Clustered Regularly Interspaced Short Palindromic Repeats) – and are there other types of gene editing?

What is the politics of food? How likely are the large corporations to say that gene editing doesn’t need to be included in food labelling?

Scientists can now harness gene drive mechanisms to control or alter natural populations. Is this safe?

The US’s secretive Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency (Darpa) has become the world’s largest funder of “gene drive” research. Why?

Modified mosquitoes with gene drives on board are already being bred and tested in labs and some may have been released.

The Impact of Gene Drives
Given the profound impact that gene drives could have on species and ecosystems, their use is a highly contentious issue. There are concerns about the ecological safety of the eradication, replacement or enhancement of particular species of animals by means of genetic engineering. Communities and groups have differing beliefs about nature and its conservation or preservation. For those reasons, the rigorous testing and regulation of insects and other animals with gene drive systems is crucial.

Bioscience Resource Project


US military agency invests $100m in genetic extinction technologies:



A brief synopsis of the show

In this interview find out the difference between Genetic engineering and gene editing. What is CRISPR  (Clustered Regularly Interspaced Short Palindromic Repeats) – and are there other types of gene editing?

What is the politics of food? How likely are the large corporations to say that gene editing doesn’t need to be included in labelling.

The US’s secretive Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency (Darpa) has become the world’s largest funder of “gene drive” research. Why?

Scientists can now harness gene drive mechanisms to control or alter natural populations. Is this safe?

Dr Jonathan Latham is a prominent international advocate for public interest science. He is co-founder and Executive Director of the Bioscience Resource Project and the Editor of Independent Science News and Director of the Poison Papers.

He holds a Masters degree in Crop Genetics and a PhD in Plant Virology and has worked at the Department of Genetics in the University of Wisconsin, Madison, USA.

Sep 12, 2018

With fluoride being a neurotoxin, there is now, in total, around 377,655,000 million people worldwide drinking artificially fluoridated water. This represents 5% of the world’s population. Yet, there are more people drinking fluoridated water in the United States than the rest of the world combined, with about one third to three quarters of the population now drinking it daily.  Trump that NZ!

Today 50% of NZ tap water is fluoridated, a whopping 73% of Ireland and 10% of England and Spain as well.

Science has known for a hundred years that fluoride suppresses thyroid function. Fetuses can be born without a thyroid gland at all but the mother will provide the hormone. The importance of the mother and what she takes into her body is very relevant.  Professor PJ Pop in the Netherlands - has a number of papers - and what is noticed is that there is reduced intelligence once the fetus is born.

Pregnancy, postpartum and the thyroid: isn’t it time to offer women optimal care?

Please listen to understand this crucial information.

Note that students studying water management or to become doctors were never told anything about fluoridation in University. So they pass through University, in a state of unknowingness about what is added to the water.

There is very little fluoride research on the human body

Declan - says he first came into the knowingness that something was awry with fluoride in 2006 - when he found that no studies or research had been completed on the human body,  other than the effect on teeth and bones. No other organs, or brain tissue or - anything.

Then in the US the National Academies 2006 report on fluoride and drinking water impelled the top committee who were responsible for this report, to bring together their top academics across the USA, from neurology, toxicology and dentistry to assess this data.  They then put together a list of close to 70 different areas that they needed studies to be taken, to fill the gaps of lack of knowledge for the effects of fluoride on people’s health.

Could Downs Syndrome be a result of exposure to drinking Fluoride in tap water?  

Declan goes on to say that Ireland has the highest ratio of Downs Syndrome on earth and these academics also posited the question of the possibility that it was ‘biologically plausible that fluoride exposure could result in Downs Syndrome.’ This was a shock to Declan.

Paul Connett talks about 52 IQ studies - the Bashash study funded by the US government - The National Institute of Health - as well as the EPA the Environmental Protection Agency  is a watershed moment  because all the other studies have come from India Mexico China and Iran - however our arrogant Western scientists just ignore these finding because… you know - they don’t make the grade …

And in this major study - all the criticisms of the other 52 studies that have been done over the years were essentially addressed.

Listen:  McGill, Harvard, Montreal Universities were all these top universities were involved. Etc etc

Now 50 papers have been produced on other aspects of neurotoxicity on elements like lead, mercury and so on.

A 12 year study by high quality scientists - they covered every single angle and every nook and cranny to prove that fluoride is toxic and has the potential to lower the IQ in children.

So the only thing left is for the politicians, the media etc to work out - what is more important for your Child?!

Healthy Teeth or a Healthy Brain?

Paul Connett, says brush fluoride on your teeth and spit it out - he says he is not anti fluoride just keep it out of your body interior.

Media Blackout?

Declan Waugh when learning of this study, followed it up and wrote to every newspaper in Ireland and radio station too - and did not receive one reply whatsoever - Even though it was a huge study!

There is basically a media blackout, even here in NZ - (we know that) hence - a.very small voluntary radio program - is filling the gap, essentially by default.

NZ’s one media response was that ‘Mexico’s fluoride levels are not relevant’ - (what does that tell you about the communicator of that statement?)  That Mexico does not rate as a country?

There was zero response to the rest of the science.  Yet, the Canadians in fluoridated areas - just last week made a statement that their levels are exactly the same as Mexico cities.

Listen to the tea drinking of NZ (Dr Mike Godfrey) - And that in Ireland one of the leading tea drinking nations per capita and that tea leaves are loaded with fluoride. That the leaves take up fluoride from the earth.

Paul Connett talks about how the percentage of people drinking fluoridated water iis affecting babies - listen especially of you are a mother with a loved one.

Drop in IQ in now a certainty.

Note that a drop of 5 IQ points would halve the number of very bright genius’s in our society and increase dramatically the mentally impaired.

What came across in this interview is that the NZ Authorities when aware of the dangers took lead out of paint - and discontinued adding lead to petrol - so why do they put fluoride in 50% of NZ’s drinking water?

Other information that comes from this interview.

Fluoride in beer - listens to these results !!!

Fluoride tap water to make up baby formula is -  a no no.

Green Party of Ireland was anti fluoride.

Over the last 5 or 6 years throughout the length and breadth of Ireland the City Councils - County Councils and Local Authorities - plus their political representatives have voted to stop water fluoridation - from Dublin City to Cork City, to Galway and the Government - still refuses to act.

Yet the first act in Germany’s reunification was to stop water fluoridation in East Germany

Informed consent - The need to know.

Informed consent is an imperative - especially in medicine - but NZers are not receiving the latest data - we are being denied the information by our elected representatives.

In medical school the amount of training in toxicology is known to be minimal.

NOTES: has two superb previous interviews by Lisa Er - one of Paul Connett & Dr Bill Hirzy on the Danger of Fluoride and another of Paul Connett that give a broad understanding of the issues.

The day I was contacted to do this radio interview - I was in Munich in Germany. Coincidentally I then found out - with a lecturer in water infrastructure in Bavaria. He is interested in our country and was talking up NZ’s clean green image to me - when I told him that we chlorinate our metropolitan water as well as actively push fluoridation of our water too - he was shocked!  The city of Munich has neither.

Question: Is there fluoride in NZ soda and soft drinks?

Sep 5, 2018

There are many myths about solo parents on the ’benefit’. These myths are perceptions that arise from stereotypes generated in public and private conversations.

“Myths often appear highly plausible, and they may even hold a grain of truth. But they far from represent reality and can cause lasting harm.

They allow the government and its welfare policies to be shielded from proper scrutiny and help explain why there is little public outcry as the safety net supporting many families and their children is progressively eroded.”

Child Poverty Action Group 2013

Myths such as ‘the benefit’ is a lifestyle choice, or sole parents are teenagers who can’t be bothered working, are very damaging.
In fact the majority of sole parents are between the ages of 25 and 64, and have had jobs, but need to be at home with their children for varying reasons. Just over 12% of sole parents are men.

In 2013 there were 234,000 children growing up in families on benefits and it is estimated that in New Zealand that one in two mothers will have spent some time on the ‘benefit’ by the time they are 50.

Read more myths and facts at the link above.

In 2017 the Labour Government announced a Families Package which has helped beneficiaries a great deal but unless we change the attitude of people generally, there will always be resistance against an empathetic government.

Housing is a huge issue for solo parents as Chantelle describes in the interview. Constantly having to move house puts families under stress and if children are constantly having to move schools, it disadvantages their education.

Chantelle Campbell grew up in West Auckland, where she still resides with her two sons. Chantelle has been raising her sons as a sole parent and has gained a Bachelor of Social Practice while her boys were younger, and now practices in the community as a social worker and community developer.

Chantelle is passionate about human rights, social justice and easing the challenges that sole parent families face. This has led Chantelle to founding, “Inspire Up Trust”, a charitable trust to support sole parents families to reach their full potential.

The e-mail for the trust is

Financial support is required to get a web site up and running for the trust. Please e-mail if you can contribute.

The two Facebook pages mentioned in the interview are “NZ Single Parents” and “Separation and Sole Parent Support”.

Aug 29, 2018

Whereas prior to the year 2000 we did not see such things however, especially since 2009, these trails are becoming far more obvious and this interview attempts to explain - why?

Why here in NZ and who would be involved? We see photographs of these in America, and they have billboards alongside freeways shouting out, “look up, they are chemtrails!”  “What are they spraying?” - Yet why here in sleepy little NZ, what is it - that's really going on above our heads?

Malcolm Scott is an experienced and qualified researcher recognised by the NZ Tertiary Education Commission. He has authored several research reports for various organisations and is currently working on a thesis about people’s perceptions and experiences of climate change and chemtrails.

In 2015 Malcolm began investigating correspondence with various New Zealand government agencies especially the Ministry for the Environment about the public reporting of alleged high altitude chemical aerosol spraying operations from aircraft in New Zealand. These are commonly referred to by the public as ‘chemtrails’ and since the late 1990’s - chemtrails have become a global phenomenon …

A great many middle aged NZers have been looking up into the usual clear blue NZ skies since they were born and have never seen - what they have been seeing since the early 2000’s and especially from 2009 onwards. These ‘long white cloud’ like extended trails can even go from near on horizon to horizon. They can stay there for a prolonged time before after some while, slowly spread outward to eventually become a cloudy haze.   

NZ Authorities Deny All Knowledge

Listen to how Malcolm has since 2015 been corresponding with the Ministry for the Environment, NIWA - the National Institute of Water and Atmospheric research, the EPA the Environmental Protection Authority, the CAA, the Civil Aviation Authority and also the New Zealand Defence Force   - And in Malcolms words, all of these organisations - one way or another - deny any knowledge or involvement with Geo Engineering - whatsoever in NZ.

Aluminium, Barium and Strontium

Yet all of these organisations have received correspondence from the NZ public - and some of them have received quite detailed evidence - photographic and video evidence. Some have even received analysis of rain water concentrations specifically demonstrating aluminium, barium and strontium and even lithium.

That there is some very good research out of the USA by J Marvin Herndon  published in 2015 - about military craft flying in a grid pattern in California. That these aircraft are specifically modified and designed for aerosol spraying operations - so they fly a grid pattern backward and forward with aerosols that over the course of the day spreads out to in effect, cause a dirty grey sky haze. If you go on line there is a lot of material posted by US residents on what they are seeing in their particular region. Search Geoengineering.

NZ residents are posting to social media

In NZ it is nowhere on the scale that it is in the US, however NZ residents are still posting to social media almost on a daily basis. Also, they are sharing among each other and correlating what they see from different parts of the country and where certain airports are, including departures and arrivals.

Malcolm says that his correspondence with the NZ authorities is to establish what they know - and he said - “they know a lot.”

It’s about long trails from nearly horizon to horizon that hang there even up to a number of hours and gradually disperse, into a haze what is commonly called chem clouds - these are not simply emissions from jet fuel - there is obviously other chemical components and factors involved in this, where they remain and persist in the atmosphere  - that connect directly to the science of ‘geo engineering.’

Solar Radiation Management

Note that over the last 3 decades that there has been a massive increase into the research of Geo engineering particularly the notion of ‘solar radiation management’ - which is the idea of spraying chemicals into the atmosphere to increase atmospheric albedo that reflects solar radiation back into space.

This is to supposedly reflect sunlight back into space so as to alleviate ‘global warming.’

This is a huge technology that has been growing out of the USA for the last 2 to 3 decades and apparently is being applied to many other countries around the world.

Malcolm mentions and also writer Elana Freeland and her many books. see - or

Elana traces back to the early 1990’s to a CIA operation called Project Cloverleaf - do an online search. That it was a coordinated military operation since the late 1990’s (and in NZ the 2000’s)  it has appeared to have escalated into a global operation that Malcolm says it has now morphed into complicity with ‘civil aviation operators.’

In NZ many ordinary citizens are out and about and are taking photos because they are interested in strange cloud formations etc and are posting them online. It has been noticed that many of the aerosol trails photographed are from commercial aircraft - because people are able to use aircraft tracking platforms to identify aircraft.

Military Involvement

Military Aircraft turning their transponders off. (leaving no signature)

Malcolm has also found that there are some aircraft that are not visible on the - ‘on line tracking services’ - that identify aircraft. These are presumed to be military aircraft that are operating with their transponders turned off. Therefore they are not identifiable. As the military have their own rules they do not necessarily have to comply with the same regulations and that of certain civil operations.

So military operators use unmarked aircraft - i.e converted aircraft with no military insignia and they are therefore hard to identify, however reports on social media say they have been seen in parts of NZ.

Overseas involvement

In Malcolms video presentation he mentions the US has taken 100 Boeing 757s and converted them for aerosol operations and according to William Thomas in his 2004 book Chemtrails confirmed - he confirms that the military have done this.

They have bought up old Boeings and refurbished them for aerosol spraying. For possibly a global fleet that is leased out to certain overseas military organisations. However the military in NZ have declined any knowledge of such operations. Even though an Omega AC10 aircraft  Ex Dc10 - (with ties to Evergreen International) which is said to be a US military operation, was seen and photographed on the tarmac at Ohakea air force base in Palmerston North many years ago. Payload is 145 tonnes of liquid. What sort of liquid would this aircraft be carrying as jet fuel comes to NZ by ship?

Malcolm approached the NZ Defence Operations and said that as he was an Academic researcher was he able to take time looking at the aircraft that the NZ military have, like checking their log book and routes taken?  This way he could confirm that they have nothing to do with aerosol operations and they flatly said No! This was from Gerry Brownlee who was the Minister of Defence for the National government and he in this letter denied any involvement by the NZDF in military aerosol operations in NZ.

The interview covers:

David Parker the present Attorney-General of New Zealand who gave a categorical denial that there was no geo-engineering happening in NZ. He signed a letter stating as such.  

We are in a global experiment that is been conducted at altitude and also at ‘night time’ - to hide the activity of aircraft.

Is it going to produce more global heating or decrease global warming - professor Tim Lenton of Exeter University called this “an uncontrolled experiment.”

It is being done without ‘our’ informed consent - and is being executed by unknown faces further up the military industrial system.

It is weaponising the atmosphere - Elana Freeland - writes of weaponising space.

There is no public consultation in NZ

Watch US scientist David Keith - a head tripping geo engineer -  - and his infamous ‘free-riding on our Grandkids’ quote.

Massey University testing to gauge NZers awareness about Geo Engineering.     - Massey University Scientists talking it up? -  15th February 2014

The Massey article.  

That though there has been an increase in water/moisture in the atmosphere due to global warming - it cannot be used as an excuse that these ‘trails’ are a result of far more condensation etc. Because all these aircraft are flying in all climatic zones, seasons, times of day, pressures, altitudes and latitudes.

NOTE: In this interview we did not discuss as to how these spraying operations spray from the aircraft or how the liquids or whatever it is that is emitted from the aircraft - are stored on board. As photoshopping pictures can be too easily perfected. This dispensing subject will be left for a later interview.   

Things to do:

Write to the NZ authorities - every email or letter becomes part of the public record - this can be then connected to either a Parliamentary process or a court process - this procedure will be a public record that will substantiate what is taking place in NZ.

This is ‘people power’ the same kind of people power that enabled NZ to become Nuclear Free.

Checking your rainwater storage

If on rain and tank water do independent tests on your drinking water:  Hills Laboratories are qualified professionals -

Web Sites - run by NZer Clare Swinney & Jim Reece

The Swiss filmmaker Matthias Hancke worked on his first documentary OVERCAST for almost seven years. In 2007 he realized for the first time, that the man-made cloud cover was not a natural byproduct from aviation.     16th of August 2018.   

Geoengineering: An Interview with a US Air Force General ( Richard H. Roellig / interviewed by Dane Wigington ) where US General Charles Jones is also mentioned as being very concerned with what is going on. It is important to note that the US military and all Western military are “compartmentalised” - that they are only given certain information that is directly involved with their present station. They are kept out of the loop with all other operations - hence ‘they know nothing’ of other (secret) operations. This is standard practice, in all their operations and for that matter in banking too.

Edward griffin  -   Phd Scientist - video

Search for the US Air Force paper - ‘Owning the weather by 2025’ - stating that owning the weather is a force multiplier - The ‘original’ has been taken down off the web, but do a search - there could be other independent activists who have a copy.

1962 President Lyndon Johnson - raving about controlling the weather  - project Popeye over Vietnam

There is much more in this interview than written here, that it is imperative for you to listen to and make up your own mind.

The children of today and tomorrow are depending on you!   

This below is Malcolm’s excellent slideshow video presentation of 2017

Aug 22, 2018

Yet he humbly focus’s his life on a message of care and due diligence and then broadcasts it across the silent airwaves to anyone who wishes to ‘tune in.’

The radio wave ecological footprint is zero, but the message is huge - global in fact and Roy has no limits.


Mixing music, facts, anecdotes, humour and irony - RushFM finds a way to infiltrate your focus and enable you, if you want to take an in-breath, to recognise truth from fiction, fact from fake the whys and whats - of … how does a human being live on a planet and in harmony with all life?

Roy has clearly set out goals:

  • What is factual, what is encouraging and uplifting
  • We need solutions and we need to laugh at ourselves and that differences are OK – it's good to have differences
  • Concerns about sameness – the “same swamp of sameness” as if we are all being homogenised – and been put through a blender until all things are the same – with the resulting - “group think!"

Yet RushFM does not focus on politics as such because politics is so fraught with deception and Roy does not want to present anything that is untrue.

As politicians change their mind. Like before elections they say this is there goal - then afterwards they change the goal posts under the pretext that ‘we have had to reassess the situation’ we have new information … stances are at first Yes  – then 6 months later it is NO! Roy wants continuity of stated purpose.

Station Axioms

Truthfulness – fairness – compassion – a positive contribution – these a writ components to life – politics is not.

What do you stand for? – Roy wants thinking individuals – he wants to stimulate the natural inclination with the people.

Roy’s observation of people today on 2018 is that there is an underlying level of anxiety that is more predominant now than ever before  … listen

He says RushFM says things that catch people ‘on the edge’ … He wants people to express their feelings – yet as peacefully as they can - he says it takes endeavour to express oneself

Saying - “it’s easy to be hard but it is hard to be gentle.”

Also - that we have been programmed with being PC.  ‘Politically Correct’ so as to muffle our society. Not to question, be inquisitive and to wonder?

Then he talks Radio and Programs that he broadcasts.

Good high quality food, organic, non GE or GMO’s

Covering some of the major challenges of the 5 G Telephone Networks  – Fluoride and the mass medication of the community
1080 Poison – and the discussion comes around to poisoning of your adversaries – That’s what we are doing to the human race.

This ever so subtle poisoning is all being done by minute parts per million – but we are still being poisoned – by poisoning rodents especially possums – but the resulting leachate is ending up in our waterways. Listen  

Vaccines  that contain mercury and other substances like human cells. He mentions laconically - its cannibalism and has been introduced for years

Roundup and glyphosate sprayed on grass that is turned into silage and the cows are fed it – and then cows are milked that then goes to the factory … for mass consumption at supermarkets - and we ask why more people especially children are unhealthy?
Go organic immediately is the only current thing we can do.  

Any person from another world looking in at our farmers – would have to find them guilty of poisoning people through the produce that they grow.

Roy’s question – How can you be your best as a human? – Especially if you ingest something (food or drink) that reduces your capacity as a human.
Even though we know what we are doing is basically insane – how can we just brush it off and pretend that is is not happening?

But. he says - “if these subtle poisons do not kill you - they definitely dumb you down.”   

Professor Emeritus Paul Connett’s name comes up.
Who says in an ordinary society there are 5% genius and 5% idiots and the rest of society are in the middle but when we add fluoride to the water – it shifts the spectrum by 5%  - which means instead of their being 5% genius’s there aren’t any - and there are now 10% idiots in our society.

Polluted Water Systems
DOC - the Department of Conservation are dropping 1080 poison into the forests around Lake Taupo and the residue is finding its way via the catchment area into the lake and river system - the Waikato – that flows in the direction of Auckland to then be pumped into the Auckland drinking water supply – and the water is not been tested for any particulates or residue – and we wonder why at another level so many children have allergies?  Roy mentions that this 1080 has been filmed entering Lake Taupo. That some 14 communities source their drinking water downstream from its source – being Taupo, the largest city being Hamilton.

Now these 14 communities along this river dispose of their “treated effluent” back into the Waikato River as well!!   

Fourteen river bank communities are involved.

Not only this – but antidepressants plus birth control, heart medicine and a whole plethora of different medications are in this waterway – and just before the Waikato flows out to the sea – Auckland Council’s Water Care – pumps and pipes water up to Auckland dams to then pipes it to householders in the suburbs. That there are no steps taken to purify (filter) most of these medicinal residues out!

There is also a marked increase of estrogen in the water and Roy gives a tip for men – to take some fresh lemon drops in a glass of water every day – so that it removes the estrogen  and makes a man - a man again. Because the men are slowly feminising …

This interview goes on to cover
Cell phones  … hullo?  Hypnosis? What’s really going on.
People farming

Scalar waves   EMF frequency influences on animal brain wave patterns

Telephone towers have 300,000 watts  Our mobile phone only uses only 3 or 4 watts

This interview then goes right off the charts …

Listen it is well worth your while ...

Note that Doctors will never speak out against the profligate use of drugs, because the Pharmaceutical Corporations who control the whole industry - will have you struck off!

Dentists will not speak out against fluoride, because the corporate Industry is lock stepped with big Pharma - so Dentist remain silent.

Water Scientists also remain speechless in relationship to 1080 poison  - for fear of losing their job, due to pressure from higher up the system.

There is a lockdown on free speech in NZ –  the word ‘gag’ is commonly used to close down free speech and this is becoming predominant.

This interview is of an honest man doing his best to relay the truth

Aug 15, 2018

I have known Gary near on 20 years and he has shared startling information that unveils to us a secret land that stretches back many thousands of years to when other peoples roamed the seas and visited early New Zealand.  

The Vegetable Kingdom is Actually Conscious

Recently I was at Gary’s home in Katikati where he played live music directly from trees, where he was able to connect up to the leaves and the roots, technology - for these trees to ’sing' various ’songs’ that were quite melodic and beautiful. That this new knowingness  portends is that trees have a consciousness and that they can feel, see and even share beneath the ground with other trees including in various situations other species of tree.

Tree Blindness

Gary goes on to talk about ‘tree blindness’ and that it signifies a massive disconnect of the human species from nature and Papatuanuku - Gaia, the earth mother. To the degree that trees are just seen as a backdrop to society - just a background setting - that on a good day, may offer shade from a bright sun and on a bad day gets in the way of your enjoyment or view.  Trees are not really seen as living entities in their own right, and to many are just a commodity to grow, as a mono culture and harvest for money and material reward.

However more of humanity are awakening to this lost connection

However the mighty kauri that have stood for 2000 years and are venerated as forest giants like the towering Sequoia Redwoods of America do - when we take the time to sit or lie down on the ground beneath to look up - inspire us of the greatness of these silent beings who have witnessed countless generations of humanity that have come and gone.    

The music device that Gary has is put out by the Damanhur Community in Northern Italy -  however this work goes back 50 odd years to Cleve Backster and using bio feedback - etc

So the sound of music in plants has evolved over recent years.

Place a contact on the leaf and another contact on the roots - that perfects a circuit and that is then run through a middi system - a computerised midi system and this converts what the tree ‘gives us’ which is static electricity - or something similar to static electricity. This is then converted into musical note, not raw static and it becomes something that we humans can listen to and that is melodic and enjoyable - there is a flow - the music changes from morning to night on the same plant - and will change its song at different times of the year as well. -  Listen

Gary states that there are continuous little bursts of electricity going on inside all living things - from a blade of grass to an animal. That now there are many solo musicians, singers, jazz groups, and even small orchestras around our planet taking up this technology and integrating the sounds into their creative pieces.

Gary sees these collaborations with musicians and trees as a very enlightening way of opening up humanity to our connection to both the plant kingdom but to the natural world as a whole.


Gary then talks about plant consciousness and plant awareness  and he uses the term ‘Tree Blindness’ in that modern society has in many ways forgotten that trees are living beings - sentient beings - and latter day humanity now only see trees as a back drop or part of the background - James Wanders and Elisabeth Schussler 1998 American biologists were the people who coined this unfortunate term.

What is plant consciousness?

Gary talks to this and mentions:

NZ law protecting mammals as sentient beings - was a world first …

Back in the 1980’s the Japanese government passed law called Shinrin Yoku or Forest Bathing or Forest Therapy  - so that people can feel rested and at ease among trees and the local vegetation - and has become a cornerstone in ‘preventive medicine' in Japan - they find that it improves ones immune system.

That the Japanese Government really wanted its citizens to make use of its generous wooded areas for healing is a milestone in itself.

The translations is that just by walking through among the trees - you are bathing your whole body and being and also it is said - wiping your aura or energy field clean - as the greenery soaks up any energy that is holding you back and holding you down.

This is now been taken up in other countries as well …

Gary then talks about walking into the ‘bush’ - the forest - for a total immersion and the quietening of our mind and letting go of our thoughts - and then notice - what we hear, and see and observe what we feel  and if possible stay for a good 2 hours and yet you will feel the effects even after a short 20 minutes - so forest bathing is in many ways available to everyone.

That music of the plants is a renewed doorway to the nature kingdom …

The interview then goes on to tell about trees talking and even seeing and recognising their offspring. Listen

This then follows on with the soil connection - the mycelium - a fungus a fine network of fibres finer than the hair on our head - and they can connect tree to tree and or plant to plant - which is a symbiotic relationship

Then we hear about how this all works … plant sugars and sharing between plant root hairs etc

Then introduces the term the ‘wood wide web’  see Avatar the movie and his Pandora is all interconnected.

Trees are a community - and we humans have lost our connection to this oxygen and life giving community.

Plant & Tree Blindness - is again seen with human housing developments - scraping the earth of its topsoil and cutting down local trees so as to make the subdivision more in keeping with so called 21st century progress.

Trees are seen as a cash crop in forestry to be logged or to be used for building etc etc

Yet trees are the bearers of fruit and nuts as well, but more so, are homes to multitudes of insects, birds etc.

Maori and their Reverence for Nature and the Forest.

Maori - had/have a sacred connection - Karakia or prayer - if wanting a tree. A sacred tree selection for carving or to build a waka - canoe  this officiated by a Tohunga - (medicine man) to do the selecting for the tree to be felled.

Papatuanuku Mother Earth - Maori are intuitively plugged in - they know of their connection … whakapapa - their lineage used to be sung to all babies whilst in the arms of their whanau and hapu (family and tribe) - they know about connection.

In The Garden In Nature.

We learn that happiness induced inner chemicals in the human experience especially gardeners, uplift ones being. One doesn’t suffer from serious depression - because they are anchoring themselves in the soils and the richness of the earth with all its micro-organisms - the bacteria and fungi. Being barefooted is really good for you.

Getting our hands dirty and soil underneath our fingernails, plus fresh air and sunshine - increases out serotonin levels and joyfulness.

A soil bacteria - mycobaterium vaccae - triggers release of serotonin - and gardening becomes a natural antidepressant.

And Mike O’Donnell has always said - “we are not only gardeners of the soil - but we are gardeners of the soul as well”

Trees have a heart beat - as they pump water up the trunk and that trees can see and make out shape and colour that there are millions of cells on the external surfaces of that tree, leave, branches and trunks that - these cells are exactly the same as the human retina but smaller   published in the Nature Journal — listen

Trees  go to sleep at night …they have experiments with infrared time lapse cameras and it is noticeable. Shhhhh tip toe on your bush walks eh?

Kauri Dieback  …

Tanekaha tree  the ‘communication tree’

In the interview the books ‘Super Nature’ - Lyall Watson

‘The Secret Life of Plants’ - by Peter Tompkin and Christopher Bird are mentioned

Secrets of the Soil:

Dorothy Retallack  late 1970s - wrote the ‘Sound of music in plants.’

Bach came out tops, but Led Zeppelin didn’t do so well.

Elisabet Sahtouris - and the big picture … She is mentioned in this interview.

Gary Cooks web site:

Aug 8, 2018

The Portfolios that Steffan held in the NZ Green Party were:

  • Primary Production
  • This Included Agriculture and Horticulture, which comprised Organics, Genetic Engineering & Forestry.
  • Plus Fisheries (for a good time he held this.)
  • Safe food for a period - (and there was some politics around that.)
  • Biosecurity and food safety.
  • Security and Intelligence for a while too.

In this interview many subjects were rapidly covered so as to give an overview of what are the possibilities of a free, truly green, healthy and independent country - one that is happily embedded in the biosphere.

Organic Food Growing   

Steffan says that in relation to our small organic food growers - we have to make sure that they can survive as we are asking of them to grow the finest quality and healthiest, highest - nutritional food. So it is imperative that our growers survive economically too.

Steffan who for 15 years was an organic producer says organic growers have to be able to survive themselves and put a roof over their head and feed their children - and they are up against industrial food production which is produced cheaply by using in his words - some very ugly chemicals and ugly fertilisers as well.  

These then degrade our rivers and that the chemicals are impacting on our health - that there are a considerable amount of chemicals in our food - so how do we compare our food? What is cheap food? Because the cost of these chemicals on top of our national health system and into our environment are not considered in NZ’s industrialised retailed food prices.

Whereas, organic producers holistic perspective does not, in most circumstances pollute waterways or the air with chemical sprays  - and there are no known health and hospital costs as a result of eating organic food.

Steffan says there is a problem with costs - but as an organic producer - he at the peak of the season for a number of weeks - could and did sell organic food at the same price of industrial vegetables. He also mentioned that industrial farming is also subsidised in the form of cheap chemicals.

Steffan produced capsicums, tomatoes, aubergines (eggplant) beans, cucumbers, basil and chilli peppers - these were his primary crop.

By blanket use of heavy chemicals across a whole farm - all pests as well as benevolent insects are killed - it’s an easy fix. Whereas organic farmers target what needs to be curtailed and do this with traps, and other noninvasive chemical means.

Loss of Insects

There is a world wide decline of insects. Where 50 years ago if you drove 50 kilometers through a rural setting there would be huge numbers of dead insects splattered on the window screen of your car. Today - basically none - zilch.

Steffan says there are two reasons that he knows of.

1)    Habitat has gone - bare earth actions be it farming and urbanisation - take away diversity - less trees, wetlands, shrubs, scrub and herbs.

2)    Chemicals nicotinoids - the ‘neo nix’ - is what they are called for short - is known to kill bees and affect their health including other beneficial insects - plus there are also fungicides and herbicides as well.

France in Europe is an excellent example of push back against these sorts of chemicals - having kicked out Monsanto as they restore ecological balance to their environment.

France too has a huge number of organic food outlets right across the country - and are far more conscious of their food production and consumption. Food that is close to ‘use by’ date is never incinerated or sent to landfill - but sent to hospices and other needy outlets and possibly prisons etc = far less waste. Also Supermarkets will not buy from farmers who use nicotinoids. This is due to commercial outlets across France listening to consumer demands.

Steffan goes on to say that our NZ regulators - our ‘environmental protectors’ as in the likes of Government - need to say that we are going to do the right thing … and bring in the ‘precautionary approach’ but, instead - our regulators are turning away and ignoring their social responsibility.

Ministry for Primary Industries - need to have vision and courage.

New Zealanders have to keep the pressure on the EPA, the Environmental Protection Agency and the Regulators - where he says we need some major changes - especially in the Ministry for Primary Industries, particularly their lack of vision and their lack of courage in not standing up to industry  There are also conflicts of interest - especially around GE & GMO’s and the release of these materials. That some of these officials have actively promoted GE and promoted chemicals when their job is to be a watchdog - for our NZ environment!

Especially when they are actively wanting easier access for GE materials to be released into the NZ countryside - and this message is coming from the CEO of the EPA - which is extremely concerning.

The community and the environment have be at the forefront - before the economy.

Steffan then mentions that he has just been elected back onto the Soil and Health National Council again.

Steffan talks about the recent breakthrough that brought about a ‘GE Free Northland’. Plus the Soil and Health Association working with these Northern Councils enabling them - along with a huge number of ordinary NZers who volunteered their time to do submissions and rally to this cause - etc.    

That the Soil and Health Association was able to get NZ’s High Court to back them in making sure that Councils such as Northland, Hastings, Hawkes Bay and to a certain extent the BOP - Bay of Plenty - the power to keep out experimentation from GE corporations. These biotech entities  always wanting to release GE organisms into the environment, any environment.

Also covered. ‘Gene editing and CRISPR, also called CRISPR/Cas9.’ - etc so as to manoeuvre to find loopholes to let these experiments into the environment - but fortunately the EU has come out and said they are the same as genetic engineering! Which is a blessing for NZ.

The Precautionary Approach - is not anti science -

It takes our children’s future into consideration.

Steffan goes on to say - he is not stalling innovation There are many ways that scientists can use these tools in labs to research both plants and animals that can be used in non GE settings - He said we must not release these products into our environment  - it’s very reckless to do so.

New Zealand can still be the clean green 100% direction that at heart - we want.

Our overseas consumers expect high quality food products - pesticide free - GE FREE - and leaving our country in a pristine state at the same time.

NZ organic production is growing.

Our growth in organics is increasing rapidly - and exports enable us to obtain premium returns.

As a result of regenerative agricultural systems, biological farming offers a prosperous future.

Bailey Perryman in Cultivating urban farming and Penelope Bundy have joined Organic NZ  so we can look forward to a sustainable drive towards organics here.

The Urgency of Training Soil Scientists

Hear how successive NZ governments have taken away the funding for ‘soil science’ in our major universities - and it is the soil that is the backbone of our country.

Air in NZ what is the quality?

Depends on where you live.

Marlborough for example  - far to much chemical drift from viticulture - exacerbating cancers and degenerative diseases.

However in Marlborough there is now a significant growth in organic wines - so no chemical spray are used by them. HOWEVER - there is also an increase in non organic vineyards in the region as well, which continue to spray.

But there are now ample organic wines available to drink here in NZ.


Rivers - nitrates and very poor forestry practices - or soil erosion have been deteriorating the water course right out to estuaries and sea. The fishing grounds are suffering major problems but as it has been politicised - it is now getting the NZ public’s attention.

Education comes through time and again in this interview - education is the answer.


NZ allowed a whole host of pests to be brought in the country 100 to 150 years ago and this has caused problems that still have to be urgently addressed.

1080 is a very cruel death … listen to Steffan, who does not like it.     Listen

He is very concerned.

We need hunters to go out and cull pests and also utilise the skins and meat if safe to do so.

Mycoplasma bovis in cows - we needed to cull them straight away. It’s a huge health problem for cows.Bio security was very slow at waking up to this outbreak!

National Security

5 Eyes Echelon listening and recording station in Blenheim - close it down is his statement.

It persists regardless of who is in Parliament. No NZ Government seems to have the power to close it?

Geo Engineering

Finally the air above us - what is Geo engineering - vapour trails, contrails and chemtrails?

The fact that analysis of the particulates are Barium, Aluminium and Strontium - what are these minute chemicals?  And what is solar reflection? Solar radiation management (SRM) projects are a type of climate engineering which seek to reflect sunlight and thus reduce global warming.

Study looks into belief that chemtrails are real - NZ Herald

Nov 5, 2017 - A new study has lifted the lid on chemtrails. ... The chemtrails conspiracy says that airliners are deliberately spraying chemicals.

This interview is definitely worth a listen. - Tim

Aug 2, 2018

That in most cases human health has been discarded or given a low priority.  This rampant technological push continues to affect human health and wellbeing, influencing our very roots that connect us to nature - the source from which we spring.

Intuitively we know this, as our health is being affected and cancer and many other types of illness skyrocket. GreenplanetFM is by no way anti science - we are satisfied with 3G and 4G technologies - however when there is a constant push for more efficiencies overriding the health of the community - the inevitable push back occurs.  

Corporate profits versus human health?

With humanity appearing to be the canary in the coal mine.

This very insightful interview tells us of what it is for a biological being having to live in an increasing world of oscillating frequencies that are continuing to intensify to the detriment of the natural world.

The vegetable and animal kingdoms are being affected. That means you and I and especially newborns, vulnerable babies, infants and children.

Humans are more than cellular bodies. The human body is composed of molecules, atoms and subatomic particles. There is a large body of literature that exists on the response of tissues to electromagnetic fields, primarily in the extremely-low-frequency (ELF) and microwave-frequency ranges.

In general, the reported effects of radiofrequency (RF) radiation on tissue and organ systems have been attributed to thermal interactions, although the existence of nonthermal effects at low field intensities is still a subject of active investigation.

This means that as new technological frequencies are deployed across cities, countryside and whole nations etc - we are in many ways an experiments in real time. We are the proverbial laboratory rats, that like GE and GMO foods, we are test cases for new technologies.  

Smart Meters

The interview starts off with smart meters that are now becoming ubiquitous across NZ. Many people may not be aware that they are already in place at their power switchboard somewhere on a wall of your house. Your power company may have already installed one. Yet, certain people are very sensitive to the subtleties of a steadily increasing frequency spectrum and may not understand why they are unable to sleep or they may continually be restless. Reason being, that they are being affected by frequencies coming off their undisclosed smart meter.

There is no legal obligation for NZers to have a Smart Meter.

In NZ there is no legal obligation to have a smart meter … you can refuse to have a smart meter …
If you have one - you can get them removed in NZ. It may require a change in company - but you can remove them.

Though if you are living in blocks of flats or apartments there are challenges.

There are  a variety on ‘non smart meters’ on the NZ market so do not believe the company line that some power retailers may tell you!  Get more information from Legacy Metering Group  or

This is the best option.

Smart meters have a lot of computer power basically, the equivalent of a modern mobile phone - and it is able to tell where certain lights and power plugs are turned on at certain times in a 24/7 cycle - like every utensil in the whole house. You are being monitored. Every electronic item use is being recorded.

Check the web site: Environmental Health Trust

Education, Research, and Policy to Reduce Environmental Risks.

The interview leads into this; which gives you an understanding of how frequencies work.
Frequency weapon systems called Active Denial  A US system.

The Active Denial System (ADS) is a non-lethal, directed-energy weapon developed by the U.S. military, designed for area denial, perimeter security and crowd control. Informally, the weapon is also called the heat ray since it works by heating the surface of targets, such as the skin of targeted human subjects.

What are 5th Generation Technologies?

They are more ubiquitous and powerful transmitter technologies!

A  result of intensifying use of transmitting frequencies in telephones and complementary technologies - people can end up with electro sensitivity  - or EHS electro hypersensitivity - or electromagnetic sensitivity - or EMS - or ES electro sensitivity.

The interview then covers the fact that the NZ Government - both Labour and National are wanting to phase out and take down copper wire telephone transmission lines. They now see them as an unnecessary cost, due to the roll out of fibre. But this means that people - especially older people possibly in rural areas will have to use mobile phones and it is known that there are instances of cancerous growths on the same side of the face that people hold up their smartphone to listen.

Katherine mentions the : save our -  a petition ….

Taking away copper lines - leaves us all open to either only fibre or mobiles ….

Back to Five G technologies   - website

The 5th Generation Radiation Frequencies Influences all creatures of the living ecology.

Birds are being affected so is urban wildlife, cats, dogs, guinea pig and pet rabbits. As for vegetation - over successive generations we will see for ourselves what happens.

Scientists and doctors warn of serious health effects of 5G Technology

Over 240 scientists and doctors from 41 countries have signed a declaration to officials of the European Commission demanding a moratorium on the increase of cell antennas for planned 5G expansion. Concerns over health effects from higher radiation exposure include potential neurological impacts, infertility, and cancer.

Experiments in China - show that rats heavily irradiated - can basically be all dead in 10 minutes. Listen to the interview.      38 minutes    Only 3 minutes

The SCARIEST 3-1/2 Minutes EVER! - 5G will Weaponize Everything

Olga Sheehan - who once worked for the World Health Organisation wrote a book called “no safe place” - saying beaming microwave radiation from space - leaves all of life vulnerable.

There are 20,000 research papers on microwaves so there is no shortage of data - however there is a shortage of 2018 data going forward, which is understandable. Hence the precautionary principle.

All biota is affected - except certain bacteria and microbes      Dr Devra Davis

We are dealing with a cascading multiple electronic microwave escalation - with wifi, cell phones, cell towers, smart meters, baby monitors and now 5G technology  - We as a human race can be likened to living in a microwave oven that is slowly intensifying

Up before the time that electricity and wireless technology came into being - our planet was near on - a paradise!

Barrie Trower former Royal Navy microwave weapons expert says that the scientists who are producing this technology have absolutely no idea of the mathematics of the waveform that is being produced - but they know it is in the gigahertz range - he stated there are no safety tests on this tech but they know that these frequencies can interfere with the cellular structure of the human body - that it is not just one wave but several waves.

Tom Wheeler - Active Denial the new microwave weapon - use for crowd control - to subdue an bring down crowds of people in a demonstration or rally.

Jul 25, 2018

Neo liberal economics, turned loose on New Zealand by Roger Douglas and Labour in 1985 (and still adhered to by both Labour and National today) has failed. The results speak for themselves - hundreds sleeping on the streets, in cars, in sheds and garages, hundreds more living in taxpayer funded motel units because they have no homes, full time workers unable to afford their rent, a health system in crisis, inequality at its highest level ever, roads, sewage systems, water supply and other infrastructure in disrepair, our "clean green" country under threat.

We need an economic system that works for people and the country, not for a favoured few. Such a system exists. It's called Social Credit. It has been tried before in New Zealand and other places and worked brilliantly. It is being increasingly talked about internationally. It could work for us again.

"Funny Money", once used in a derogatory way to describe Social Credit, is a term that would best describe the stupidity of our government borrowing the money it needs from private financial institutions when it could borrow from the country's central bank (the Reserve Bank), which it owns.

This means that $4,500,000,000 of taxpayer money every year goes to pay interest when it could go towards things that benefit Kiwis.

Social Credit is committed to fixing that, and putting in place a financial system that works for New Zealanders.

Imagine if the government could create all the money that is needed.

“Our own history offers us one of the most important instances of this being done. In the 1930s in the middle of the Great Depression, the great Labour Prime Minister Michael Joseph Savage authorised the creation of new money so that thousands of new state houses could be built, thereby providing jobs for the unemployed and homes for the homeless and – incidentally – an income-producing asset for the government."

Quote from Brian Gould, “Creating Money for the Good of the Country”.

Chris Leitch is Leader of the Social Credit Party and its finance spokesperson.

Has been a campaigner for monetary reform since 1972.

He stood as candidate in Whangarei in 1984 and 1987.

He became the Party’s National President in 1989.

After his party joined the Alliance, he became the first ever Alliance Candidate to stand for parliament – in the Tamaki by-election in 1992 after Rob Muldoon stood down, coming in second. He and the team reduced an 8,500 majority down to just 1,200.

Elected to the Auckland Regional Services Trust in 1992, Chris fought efforts by the government to force the Trust to privatise and was successful in keeping revenue-earning assets in public ownership.

Elected to the Waitemata Electricity Trust, Chris helped resist attempts by a foreign company to get full ownership and asset strip the company.

He has served as Board Chairman of the Whangarei Youth Centre, and the Onerahi Primary School.

He has been deputy leader of the party for two periods, once commencing in 1993, and again in 2014.

He was elected leader last month.

Social Credit’s web site is

Jul 18, 2018

There is a growing awareness of what Genuine Progress Indicators do - as GDP includes all costs to the nation, whilst GPI, wants to address the losses to society.  

Crime and family breakdown        is seen as Gross Domestic Product

Household and volunteer work        is seen as Gross Domestic Product

Pollution and its consequences        is seen as Gross Domestic Product

Long term environmental damage    is seen as Gross Domestic Product

Even War goes through the books as Gross Domestic Product!

So all of the above, don’t really benefit society at all - as they are all major losses yet, Governments globally have always classified these as a measure of economic growth!

In this interview which becomes quite riveting in the end - Dr Coleman talks of the challenges of putting GPI in place within the government economic apparatus.  That prior to the 3 term National Party Key administration, that Labour Minister of Finance Michael Cullen was very interested in this concept - but Labour was voted out of office - and he was not able to follow through in taking this forward.  

But in the meantime these losses are costing society and the country dearly!

Genuine Progress indicators is a ‘holistic’ way of seeing a more integrated bigger economic picture, that factors in the environment, as well as the community as a whole.


A holistic way is to view all the various facets to life in a more homeostatic way. As in a integrated whole of interconnection and interrelationships. In this interview he mentions that when he engaged the leaders of the NZ Maori Party they instantly and intuitively grokked his reasoning as applying to our planet - Papatuanku as alive - or the earth acting as one great superorganism.  

This was then extended to the Whanganui river being classified recently by the NZ Government as a living entity that has a vast catchment area of some 7,000 square kilometres.  - The next question is, do we have the will to see the far larger picture as we further our knowledge of the interconnection of life. (James Cameron in the blockbuster movie Avatar, introduced the moon Pandora as a living being and that all the tree roots interconnected in one vast - neural network).       See the Gaia Hypothesis - James Lovelock

One of the larger challenges is that both in business and in Government there is compartmentalisation. Where there is very little to no ‘cross fertilisation’ or sharing - people are often in positions of ‘need to no only’ so they only understand a very limited perspective of how the whole organism/organisation works. That the company or the Department is not acting as a ‘dynamic whole’ and thus efficiencies as well as enthusiastic participation - is throttled back.  When in a very connected electronic world - the imperative is energetic team spirit, that on a grander scale then spontaneously engenders novelty and innovation.    


This subject came out of the blue in that I was wanting to see what country was further along the ‘conscious journey’ of seeing the world in a more futuristic and caring perspective. So knowing that Bhutan was a country that had a ‘happiness’ indicator I threw in a the comment - what about Bhutan?

Well Ron came back to me and said he had lived there for 5 years - and so could  tell us far more than virtually anyone in the West has heard.

He said that they had a fairly enlightened King who wanted to gauge the feelings of the mainly Buddhist inhabitants of that small kingdom. With initiating a Gross National Happiness (GNH) goal.

What comes out of this discussion is that the Bhutan government wanted to float this idea through the UN so that other countries could participate. When this happened - and though a lot of countries thought this was a good idea, there was pushback especially as this would have had to deal straight at face value - with other countries poverty and all the other contingencies like clean air, water, land and food production, housing, education and health. You name it.

Synchronicity with what’s happening in New Zealand

Fortunately, this goal is still alive and well today and the present NZ government is putting a lot of attention into it..

The Government's plan to announce the world's first "wellbeing" Budget next year resonates with business people if a big Waikato Inc turnout to hear Finance Minister Grant Robertson is any gauge. NZ Herald 10th July 2018     

Then Ron takes his attention to what’s happening in the biosphere and the overlapping challenges and tipping points as to what we as a humanity are doing to our planetary ‘life support system’.

Bangkok under water by 2033, which I question him about - because Al Gore said that the Arctic would be ice free in summer by 2013, and it has not happened. Yet, the warming continues - see the temperatures in Europe over the last month.    

Shift in planetary consciousness -  
The interview moves on to talk about planetary leadership and there is a vast vacuum in all governments globally. The fact that people are rebelling against neoliberalism and the status quo and that of the whole Brexit domino situation etc etc.  Listen 

Empowering Youth and Women

There is an acute need for empowering of the worlds youth and especially woman (and their reproductive rights) - to nurture their/our common future. Plus, for them (that in this somewhat tumultuous world) to be in a healthy position to make this change possible. This is an area that we all intuitively know that as a human society, we need to engage in - and urgently.

Though we still have to trust that the top down model of leadership ‘may’ engage the population with an enlightened approach - the thrust of this whole interview is about grassroots movements. An energised bottom-up regeneration and metamorphosis movement. This interview carried on to include many small towns, villages and regions in NZ consciously coming together as small focussed communities. See main page    

These are about farmers markets acting as a catalyst to bring the community closer together so as to have access to cheaper, healthier organic food as well as to network together  plus organising a of time banks. Especially that volunteerism can be rewarded by time bank credits.

Other Initiatives

In Auckland the Manukau District Health Board now has worked alongside the championing of 70 community gardens in the area. The benefits are many, and this can only encourage the community to healthily become more engaged and connected.

This was a very lively and empowering interview. We both came away ‘happy and empowered.’

Jul 11, 2018

This subject of the horrors of child abuse has not been covered by GreenplanetFM, as this program is basically premised on environment, health and consciousness.

However a ‘chance’ meeting of Ludovic C. M. Romany the author of the book ‘Innocence’ shifted my perspective so as to tell the NZ public that there is a major problem ‘lurking’ under the radar across this most fortunate yet unknowing nation.

With challenges coming to us daily via the worlds media - Child abuse - is an overwhelming subject and when we are bombarded with all the other horrors that the world media-corporations seem to hurl at us, I felt to go more public on this important issue.

When a baby is born into the world, we at heart, want that baby to be loved and cherished, to be wanted, by both its mother and father - however if this baby is unwanted and is instantly perceived as a burden - this can become hell on earth for this newborn. This in essence - is the story of Wi.   

However there is a happy ending to this interview of Wi, coming through this harrowing journey in his 47th year - he is healing a broken heart and a shattered upbringing. This allows us the public to realise that we can always in the end, save the day. That against the odds, we can all come out - ‘sunny side up’

A profound account of how a little boy can come through this saga and still carry love in his heart gives us hope for all children who may have been born into a world of abandonment and suffering.   


Jim & Helen Moriarty

In one solid committed sit down, I was able to ingest the weight, the daunting but inspiring tasks of opening myself to the Mauri of Innocence.

Innocence without question is a testament to the mana, the resilience, the survival of Wi Peepe in post-colonial New Zealand, against a backdrop of an upbringing, that defies belief. A New Zealand where the horror of Wi’s childhood, the guilt and blame is attributed to none other than the monster, the demonic force that is his father. So graphically detailed and truthfully portrayed.

This is a harrowing, yet ironically beautiful account of Wi’s deep connection to his wairua, and emancipation from a life that leaves many dead in its wake. That the occasional right kind word and action, amidst his nightmare existence coupled with a deep knowing of the healing, found in the constant of the river and nature, were enough to feed the soul of a child. A child who fought the complexities and distortions of those around him, themselves products of post-colonial alienation and cultural disenfranchisement….It is a window into Wi’s determination to fix the things himself and be accountable, into societies shifting lens around the intolerable, and at times over zealous reporting and response to family violence and harm. ‘Thank God for that.’

In the end, it is about Wi’s purotu, the magic within, that never deserts him. That equips him along the way, that is part of his whakapapa, that is recognised and supported by others, who could see beyond the battered exterior into Wi’s loving sacred self.

Thankyou Wi and to your whanau for letting us in.

Nga mihi aroha ki a koutou katoa.

Jim and Helen Moriarty

Jul 4, 2018

Though overstated, it has also given New Zealander’s a wake up call - as to what do we want for our families and particularly our children in our country so as to make our communities more resilient, and viable, but more so - economically, more friendly, as well.  

Towns, Villages and City Suburbs are becoming closer and safer.

From ‘transition everything’ to, farmers markets, time banks, permaculture, holistic health, homeschooling, garage sales, and food buying co-ops - Communities are realising that localising as much as possible especially around food, learning and backyard growing activities …. Is making small towns, city suburbs and small rural villages far more cohesive and enjoyable. People are discovering their neighbours and creating deep connection and relationships.

It’s about innovation and integration of small business modals and setting the template for a regenerative 21st Century where families and communities can thrive together.

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