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Dec 11, 2019

For decades he through his superb communication skills has brought together many local and seaside people across NZ to organise and come together - including Maori (mana whenua) - to advocate and campaign to ‘our' NZ government and the fishing industry for a more fairer deal for all people who love to fish. This has in many ways become a battle for the soul of New Zealand’s vast fisheries. 

The Supportive Players

NZ Angling and Casting Association
NZ Underwater Association
Yachting NZ
Plus many other clubs that are not affiliated to the sport fishing council - like
The Outboard Boating Club of Auckland. 

Since the time of Maori and over the last 250 years with the coming of the European the ability to catch fish off the seashore or in a small boat and bring home food for the family to eat and surplus for neighbours was just a standard neighbourly thing to do. But, Scott says that 'sharing of ones catch is a primary source of self esteem and self worth.'

Saying that this has an important part to play in our mental health as well. Of being part of a community and the sharing of goodwill. 

A local Ngāpuhi friend (from Northland) calls taking a bin full of fish to his neighbours as a ‘maximum mana enhancement’ - a situation when driving home after fishing to be able to stop and knock on the door of a kuia and a kaumatua ( wise elder woman leader and wiseman elder leader) - offering them the opportunity to acknowledgement that elder in the spirit of goodwill.  A fish (ika) and a gift (taonga) - Scott said he can not over emphasise this cultural importance. 

Today this is continued in a very innovative and sharing way   and

This is a sharing and contribution to allow people to receive a fish head or frame that still has a lot of flesh on it, and utilise it for food and a means to not waste any part of the fish.

Called the trifecta of respect … 

Respect for the animal - the fish that has given its life - respect for community  and fellow man and … self respect and acknowledging that you have done the right thing.

This cooperative initiative is making headway - and over 60,000 kilograms of heads and frames have found their way to homes that want fresh protein 

Scott says kudos goes to the Auckland Outdoor Boat Club for being the pilot for this to come into being and taking it seriously whilst committing significant resources to allow this to happen.

He also gives thanks to the Papatuanuku Kokiri Marae Whanau in Mangere, Auckland who’ve made many 100’s of collection trips to make this happen by distributing to families who really appreciate fish heads and need it as the health giving properties of fresh ocean fish are so beneficial.

Educating, Learning and Knowing.

Scott says - 'you do not manage fisheries - you manage people’ and to have them better understand what’s at stake and contemplate and consider shifting their attitudes, expectations and behaviours. He says if that is the measure of success - then he feels very comfortable where LegaSea has evolved to on that side of the ledger. 

Connecting with the wider community where food, health and goodwill combine together.

Scott acknowledges the leaders of the Ngāpuhi and Ngāti Whātua, Ngāti Kahu, Ngāti Kuri and Ngātiwai who have so generously shared their accumulated knowledge, their Mātauranga (can be defined as 'the knowledge, comprehension, or understanding of everything visible and invisible existing in the universe', and is often used synonymously with wisdom - over numerous generations. 

They have taken Scott and friends into their houses - whare and onto their marae - meeting area - over 20 times for overnight stays and 30 to 40 times at specific hui’s or meetings. 

They have taken Tauiwi – (people coming from afar) into the Maori realms or the phenomena of Manaakitanga (hospitality), Kaitiakitanga (guardianship and protection) and Rangatiratanga (often translated as 'self-determination or sovereignty). These being value systems that drive Te ao Maori (the Maori world view)

That only when one grasps the fundamentals of feeding of the visitor - to manaaki manuhiri - the obligation to take care of guests, do we deepen our understanding. ... listen 

All of this effort is driven by a sense of rangitiratanga - an aspiration to lead by example based on inherited knowledge ..

Scott said he is running with this statement - because he and the LegaSea crew are totally committed to restoring abundance of fish in our seas and ensuring future generations get a fair go.

Stating emphatically - There is no conflict in abundance. 

The NZ Quota Management Fishing System

Scott now turns his attention to the NZ Fish Stock Quota System that is creating total havoc within our fisheries. 

And he mentions that he is hardening up the language in relationship to this kaupapa - ( topic, policy, matter for discussion, plan, purpose, scheme, proposal, agenda, subject, programme, theme, issue, initiative.) 

As this present unsustainable fishing program that is overseen by the NZ Government - is leading us all in a race to the bottom.

That we in NZ have somehow or another - sold the lie to the rest of the world that we have some-how the best, world leading fisheries management system - has to be seen for what it is - a gigantic lie. 

He said we are on the way to an unavoidable end game ... 

Sustainable Depletion - how can we take as much as possible yet still just keep enough fish in the water until next year?

Our hapuka and bass are gone

Our trevali are decimated 

Our John Dory, Gurnard and Tarakihi stocks are ridiculously over allocated and yet, unable to be caught. 

Deploying Destructive Extraction Technologies 

Fishing boats are using the most sophisticated technology that man can devise - with the incredible power of GPS and sonar and military technologies that have been modified and co-opted and used to catch fish by industrial bulk harvesting, indiscriminately. - 

He states this is unacceptable. 

Trawling technologies seining and dredging especially the trashing of the underwater environment by dragging nets and bottom trawling - scooping up all kinds of sea life. This is destroying coral and other three dimensional elemental ecological life forms growing on the sea bed - in a swath of waste and destruction across huge areas of the sea floor. (Much like how they do it is tropical rainforests with giant chains pulled between massive bulldozers, levelling everything in between).

Then the net is all pulled in and suddenly it's all over - everything is crushed - shattered - nobody is there to count or mourn the loss of mega billions of tiny little underwater creatures - never to see there life out where they are.

Property Rights

Scott says it's because the industry sees property rights is the only way to go. Enabling industry to make decisions - have ‘happy' business - small government - let the market take care of big decisions, everything will be good in the water garden - what a lot of …    Listen ...

Global Commons

Tim brought up the words 'global commons' - that oceans actually are part of the global commons - owned by the people - with no one person having ownership of everything. The atmosphere is too plus Antarctica and Space.   

The Legal Legasea Fightback

Scott said Legasea has come about over a number of decades - as a result of having put in high quality submissions to Government - including legal submissions to the High Court the Appeal Court and Supreme Court - where the courts agreed with them and their interpretation of the Law.  Listen

Legasea’s aim: To take the rights of the sea first and not property rights that the fishing industry covets.

And no matter what Scott and the small guys did to share the abundance and bounty of the ocean - they came up against the same obstacle - this intransigent monopolist, industrial fishing machine.

A hand full of families - that have been granted at no charge the property rights - the quota from back in 1986 - (during the Rogernomics experiment) and more recently Mana whenua - Listen

Within NZ vast fishery area - the 4th largest on earth are over 600 different fisheries spanning 90 plus species - many that are never seen as they are deep water varieties.  

 He states that under the present regime that property rights are failing globally - so Legasea have developed an alternative system called 'rescue fish.’

He believes that this system has the certainty of rebuilding abundance, creating a healthy inshore commercial  fishing fleet, whanau (family) businesses small scale - ‘know your fisherman’  This is going to be the ‘catch cry' - he says you have read it here first.  

Know your fisherman - know how that fisherman goes about catching that fish, where, how etc  - know what regulations that he must fulfil and then buy that fish of them - and set up a relationship.

It also means that there will be a debt to the government as we will have to buy our own fish back - to buy out of this unfair 'quota management system.' Listen

He also talks to Manuwhenua - and to get them in a far stronger and equitable situation - again - back to the Treaty of Waitangi - and build up some goodwill.  At the very least give them the real rangatiratanga that they never secured under the existing settlement arrangement. Listen

Also Scott talks about having a 50% biomass of fish - this translates to there is always 50% of the fish of every species in the ocean. Present fishing systems are leaving a far lower % of fish in the water hence it is totally non sustainable leading to eventual collapse - Listen

Rahui, Rahui, Rahui,
To put in place a temporary ritual prohibition, closed season, ban, reserve - traditionally a rāhui can be placed on an area, resource or stretch of water as a conservation measure. 

Working Alongside Maori
Scott talks of the privilege of staying at a Marae in Waimate North in the Bay of Islands where Ngapuhi are going to do fish management in a far more holistic way - around sharing the abundance … Listen.

To re-emphasise
The quota management system - has failed us - having been based on property rights - that NZ was the first country on earth to do this and it is a failing system for 99% of the country and the people.

By definition it was an experiment - where the corporates ‘cleaned up!

The quota management system is owned by a dozen entities - who are monopolists and they are maximising the ownership and access rights.

(Tim here - Sadly far to much to write up - you will have to listen - astonishing stuff).

Scott tells about the infamous 1990 amendment where no select committee, no proper democratic process through Parliament - very dodgy MP Doug Kidd of the National Party said that the Legislation was a disgrace for Democracy …

Quotas today - they are paying over a million dollars a tonne for the right to harvest 1000 kilos of crayfish per annum.

Now there is also the conflict due to the falling of numbers of Maui dolphin and nets been used and it is really sad and messy - Listen.

Plus the weird marriage with the WWF with Stanfords and Moana fisheries - with a rescue  plan based on more snapper quota …

Start Anew
We have to start all over again.  

He says delete ‘quotas’ and go back to square one and a blank piece of paper and start again - ask what do we as a society really want?

He says we want responsible people catching fish with a maximum respect - treating every fish in order to achieve maximum value - no more dumping over the side, no more discarding because it was the wrong fish as required by the quota -  we want to see fisherman proud of the cameras on board to record the harvest - as well as around the ‘restraints' because its is all about goodwill. Listen

Legacy wanting significant resourcing in the people - simple kaupapa (policy, matter for discussion, plan, purpose, scheme, proposal, agenda, subject, programme, theme, issue, initiative.)

no profit in this - just restored abundance and a fair go for future generations 

Controlling the Game
About 10 families for over 50 years they have been plundering the fishery, at no charge, no resource rental, they are given 400,000 tonnes of fish a year from the NZ commons - there is no resource rentals

They pay a minimal cost recovery levy and for research that tilts the data more in their favour to take more fish as against reducing the take. 

Note: Having industry pay for their own research is always slanted in industries favour e.g Genetic modified foods, glyphosate and 5G wireless - so that it has to be always mandated to have ‘independent research.’

He encourages us all to join Legacy so as to support the ordinary fisher folk against the might of big money of the fishing cartel. 

Finally - join a club - any club - this is where you can meet people from other walks of life and learn more about society and of the various strands that connect across a broad swathe of the community and society as a whole. Become more knowing.  

If you are really capable - join a committee and work for the benefit of a greater organisation or greater whole.

There are very few people in NZ if any who have such a command of communication and knowledge of fishing stocks  than Scott Macindoe.

This superb interview of him gives you faith in the future of this country.

This is it until next year, where 2020 vision offers us the opportunity to re-envision where we as a human species - can create and shape a future. A conscious future that benefits all biota and children and grandchildren of tomorrow. This is what we hold dear to ourselves. 

Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year from us all at in Auckland - tucked away around the curve in the South West Pacific in Aotearoa New Zealand - just 4 and a half hours from Antarctica, the vast ‘global commons’ that no country or person owns.  

Kia kaha and Aroha.  

Dec 4, 2019

This easy going, insightful interview of Will, elicits a feeling of knowing that throughout his life experience he has covered, 'both the map and the territory' and having published his remarkable book 'Now or Never' reminds one of Buckminster Fuller - that Will is committed to being a ‘catalytic educator and membrane extender.’

So having evolved out of the flower power generation of the 1960's  I ask Will about the town he lives in - Ashland in Oregon that has a general population of about 22,000 people. 

A Conscious Community Oriented City.

The reason why Will ended up in Ashland was that 17 years ago he was sitting in a hot tub at the local YMCA and overheard a conversation between some others 'soaking up' that was expanding on quantum physics. He said he learnt so much about the nature of reality in that short 10 minutes he said to himself - this is the town for me. 

He says that there are so many people there who are immersed in the study of consciousness - and the network of 'conscious' people never ceases to astound him. That there are many teachers of so many 'disciplines' as well as holistic health professionals - retired diplomats and that there are numerous people who could become very famous, but prefer to remain quietly silent, and just do life, integrating into and being in community. 

Many renown authors like, Neil Donald Walsh, (Conversations with God) Gary Zukov (The Seat of the Soul) and Jean Huston (The Search for the Beloved) - live there. That the town has a huge organic food-op that has over 20,000 members - that there are more members than people in the town ... that they are innovative and in the world of today - these people are aware - and as a community they are deeply concerned about the state of the world - they are active as well as 'participate in the community' and at the same time work to bring joy into their lives - other than despair ...

Not only that, Oregon, in which Ashland is situated, is the only state in the US that has a deposit on soft drink bottles and cans ... and Ashland's Police Cars have an insignia on the side stating 'Peace Officer' - not Police Officer   - this is very recent ... a rebranding - actually Will says that the Police Chief could easily be at home listening to our conversation and would without doubt keep up with this discussion ... as well as 'contribute a lot to it' - saying that he is a wonderful man. 

They have a citizens group that are very active around any abuse or violence in the area - and that do not have much ... there is a lot of attention being put on the homeless issue and poverty. They are a very proactive community and there are people who are retired who have a good amount of money - including giving and a lot of philanthropy and receive a lot of social support within the community.

In many ways Ashland is a 'microcosm' of how we would like it to be in the world.

A view of what is happening across America today.

I asked about the larger story of what's happening across the USA - he said what we are seeing now is the full extent of what is happening behind the scenes - invisibly.   It is now out in the open - saying it's not as if corruption has just started - and dishonesty in high places ... manipulation, deceit and lies and all we are seeing - is so obviously out in the open ... that this has been going-on for decades ... and even though a lot of Americans are embarrassed, disgusted, alarmed with what has been happening - they are also grateful that it has now come out in the open where they can now see it and now perhaps have a chance to deal with it.

He said that he had been to a concert that day - and a musical piece had lyrics that were grappling with the turmoil of the world. These rang so clearly to him when they san - "a mind at peace with all below ..."  

"a mind at peace with all below ..."   

He then said that it's not sanctioning denial - he said that he keeps up with the news and has various sources that he studies every day ... he feels that there is a skill to develop and be able to witness what is going on - and then develop our own activism to help - without having a disturbed mind  ...

The Quantum World and how it plays out in our daily life. 

Regarding Wills insights into the quantum world - it is really about exploring energy - Listen - sorry - regrettably I do not have time to write this all up. 

The observer effect - that at a sub-atomic level - if you are observing a situation - your are also affecting it - listen ...  so what you look at - you will influence what you see .... 

Also covered is - spiritual bypass and especially anger and rage  ....  Listen - very illuminating ...

Covering Barbara Marx Hubbard and her statement that today - 'we humans are in the birth canal to another reality or paradigm' ... to find that Will had lived in the same house as Barbara for a year and of the inner growth that took place during this time ... That she was an important world teacher around so many aspects relating to life.   

Will talks about our shadow - and the darker side of our nature that has us saying and doing certain things in our life that in so many ways is incongruent with who at heart we truly are ... Listen 

He talks about Ursula Le Guin - author of the Earthsea chronicles ...  gist ...being frightened and always running from the darkness of our own shadow - and then stopping and taking a courageous stand and facing it.  (I won't tell you what happens :))

Covering Anima Munde Latin for  - World Soul - we are all connected - Namaste the Hindu greeting - ‘I honour the light behind your eyes - I honour the God (Atman) within you.’

What is the saying - ‘I know where you are coming from’ ... what does that correlate to?

I sense that where you are coming from is basically - in essence ...

Question can we stop what we are doing partly through our day - at any random time and ask the question - ‘how much love do we have for ourselves and the universe/divine as of this moment?’

Can we discipline ourselves to not be caught up in the daily drama of our existence and separate ourselves momentarily and see that we truly are connected to a greater realm that is eternal and that we can be 'present' with? 

A recent poll in the USA found that 50% of the people who were polled did not have anyone to confide in. Will found this information heartbreaking. How have we come to this?

He further stated that we, he and I (Tim) were indeed very fortunate that we are surrounded by networks of people whom we could seek solace and share love with, of whatever is concerning us. This is very important.

We have to get back to being 'a human being' and not human doing ...

Will also talks about time travel - and that we are becoming time travellers - being present and then travel in the quantum field.  listen 

Within the quantum field - Will talks to dreams and the dream field and synchronicities ...

That our reality could actually be a dream just a different type of dream ....

That we are exploring a mystery or even 'the great mystery'  

That ultimately Life is a mystery ...

Though a teacher, Will states that he never sees himself as an expert - all he wants to do is draw out the genius that is within all students.

"The purpose of existence is to find out the purpose for existence ..." - comes up as a question that we need to be aware of through out our life.

What is required is 'to culture a field that inspires the genius to come out in everyone who is there ...'

To be able to listen 

To be very good listeners - Will talks to this - we have to be able to listen and show our intent to learn from the young ones.

"Noon day club" - pausing every day at noon for a short prayer or a mini meditation.

Will encourages us to set our smart phone alarm at 12 noon to give us a friendly reminder to remember who we are and that to give thanks and for-want of a better word, offer a blessing to the world.  

This idea has been around for a while - but is has somewhat tapered off and Will is resurrecting it again as a centering mechanism or a homing ...

He said more and more people are setting there smart phones for noon and when the alarm goes off - are taking time out to refocus ...

Some people have a little declaration. 

Wills is - "This is the moment - something wonderful is happening - I am creating the future with love ..."

He says this silently to himself, however if he is with someone and if they are willing - he says it out loud.

It is just to share a few moments of silence together and to feel ones energy broadcasting into mass consciousness.

Wills intention is to have millions of people to do this at noon every day around our planet in every time zone when the sun is at its zenith.

So that we get a pulsation of energy ...

And Will feels confident this can make a difference.

We all need to slow down to the speed of life - Life is not frantic ...

Simply slow down and enjoy being alive ...

And remember 12 noon ... 

Thus was a wonderful relaxed interplay. Will is a very easy to relate to having a vast life experience of teaching, writing and conversing with people from all walks of life. Being gregarious and amenable - he is committed to our world, its people and especially the children of today and tomorrow.

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Know that Love makes life worthwhile.

Imagine a life without love. Sadly, so many people feel a despairing lack of love, even some who are successful and surrounded by friends. Over 50% of Americans report they have no one they can confide in. 25% live alone. An epidemic of loneliness is sweeping the world, spiking suicide rates.

What can we do about that?

We can discover and begin using a secret weapon that we already possess. “Weapon,” of course, is the wrong word. Let’s call it a secret super power. I won’t make you wade through twenty torturous paragraphs before I reveal what it is (while trying to sell you something along the way … don’t you loathe that website technique?).

We can express love.

This is a massive subject and will be the topic of an ongoing series of articles I’ll pen over the remaining weeks of 2019. You’ll receive them as part of your free subscription to The Noon Club. My objective? To educate you in what I’ve come to believe is the most effective technique for bringing deep, positive change into the world, benefiting ourselves in the process.

Education is one thing, application is another. As you read, you’ll also be experiencing the three-phase learning process I’ve discovered for translating new understanding into new action. Ultimately, unless we act on what we learn we’re just swelling our heads.

So, how can we help those who desperately want more love in their lives? This brings us to our first lesson in love and from this point forward I’ll use the “you” voice because I want this to be a real conversation between us, rather than a theoretical discussion about a vague “we.” So, pour yourself a cup of tea, settle back in your chair, and enjoy this deep dive for the next 5 minutes or so.

Nov 27, 2019

Estimates of the number of slaves today range from around 21 million to 46 million, depending on the method used to form the estimate and the definition of slavery being used. The amount of money comes to about $150b. 

For those living in North America they will not use the term slavery, especially as so many American blacks are descendants of slavery and they prefer to use the word ’trafficking’.

As Kathleen is a Sister of Mercy here in NZ -  when working for the 'Year of Mercy' which was 2015, she and other people from 42 countries embraced a ‘theological reflection process’ and out of that they focussed on two areas - the degradation of the earth and the displacement of peoples. She was then asked by her congregational leader to be the NZ liaison person - to collaborate with people within the umbrella group - internationally. Where they use the latest technology available, including Skype to all connect up, and share resources and strategies.

Slavery has been present for Millenia 

As someone who has a background in Biblical studies - she has looked back through scripture and in the New Testament she says we cannot face the word ’slave’ and it is there so often - and it has been basically translated to the word - ‘servant' and by doing that it sort of obscures the words meaning. That people in the time of Jesus lived in the Roman Empire that depended entirely on slavery. 

Which she states is a hidden evil that is dominating our world today.

In New Zealand 

She says she was privileged to go to the 'Tip of the Iceberg' conference in Wellington in August 2017 and this was where they worked and collaborated with local people to raise awareness of anyone that they may think is being entrapped by certain business or working conditions.

This was lead by the NZ Government’s Ministry of Business Innovation and Employment - and that the US Embassy was involved as well.  A  Rev Chris Frazer (a Diocese of Wellington deacon for social justice) was very much behind it as well.

Also involved was the Wellington Anglican Cathedral. It was opened in the NZ Parliament by the current Minister of Immigration at the time.  The Honourable Michael Woodhouse and he was very supportive of the whole proceedings. It brought together NGO’s - non Governmental organisations, the NZ Police and she said there were an impressive number of people there. Many of them working at the grass roots.

Food Growers Association, Faith groups - from the Catholic Church and the Salvation Army including  Andrew Wallis CEO of the Anti Slavery organisation - Unseen, from the UK spoke - and though NZ has been at the forefront of having women vote, being Nuclear Free and being strongly anti apartheid as in South Africa - Andrew says that in tackling this crime NZ today is where the UK was 7 to 10 years ago.  So we have a long way to go to catch up with where Britain is currently at.

The reason is that in Britain they have the 'UK Modern Slavery Act' where every business is registered and annually must put in a report stating that they know the three levels where their goods come from.

Say it is a shirt - so who did they buy it from, where was it made and where was the cotton or the fabric grown? That at each level - they must prove that they are monitoring the product all the way. Thus, following the money to the source of the produce, is how everything is being recorded. This methodology was strongly focused on at the conference - especially by the NZ police.

If any person is ‘brought’ into NZ and is suspected of being involved in human slavery - first communications has to go through the Immigration Department (as the predominant victims are usually recent arrivals into NZ) - this she says is a very complex procedure even before it gets to the police. Where as, in the UK - it comes immediately under the Crimes Act.

The take-away from the 'Tip of the Iceberg' conference - was to get new legislation like the UK passed in NZ as soon as possible.

2016 was the First Conviction for Slavery in NZ

In NZ we have had very few convictions for human slavery in this country. (Most NZers have no idea that such a thing would exist in this country.)  

For the first time the NZ Police were able to convict a perpetrator of bringing 16 Fijian people to NZ with lavish promises but to then double cross and entrap them to become enslaved. See below link.

The NZ police said it took about 2,000 hours of work to get this conviction - being a huge time consumer due to the complexity of our Law. The outcome of the Conference was that we need to advocate for a change in the Law so as to have it upgraded and streamlined so as to address this horrendous bottleneck to rapid enforcement and justice.

This situation was only found out because the Fijians were allowed to go to church one Sunday and one of the congregation noticed how upset a Fijian woman was and went over to see her and ask her to come and have a cup of coffee and that was when the lady spilt out what was happening.

So Kathleen says that it’s imperative for us to be very alert and be mindful of situations popping up amidst us - because it is just below the surface and we need to know this.

Here is a list that covers points like:

If a person does not carry their passport, and do not know much about visas  - or they are not willing to say where they work or for whom they work for. 

Or if they are escorted to and from work and they state that they are working everyday and for long hours. 

If they do not know where they live or are fearful of giving the address.

That they have not been paid. If they hesitate as to talking about who arranged their contract or visas … if they are paying off large debt. Are there signs of self harm and they seem starved. 

Finally if the are young people and are absent from school.

So the imperative is for us to be mindful and aware of people - particularly immigrants, because had that lady at church not been crying and a parishioner notice and kindly offered to ask to help and assist - those 16 Fijians could still be enslaved today.

[What would their family in Fiji think when they were cut off from these workers here in NZ? It must have been very concerning for them.]

Other talking points: 

Stop the Traffic - Fuzz Kitto - who says that traffickers are really smart so we have to be smarter … traffickers are creative - so we have to be more creative … traffickers are organised - we have to be more organised … traffickers have smart systems so we have to have better ones. Traffickers disempower people - we have to empower people. Traffickers try to make people invisible -  we have to make them visible. Traffickers work across borders - we must work better across borders. Traffickers do more for less - we have to do more for less.

Remember the vehicle driver in Britain recently where a large number of Vietnamese people died in a container on the back of his truck. This type of trafficking is everywhere. We only hear about it, if the police or customs catch them red handed or in a horrific disaster as in this case.

Kathleen mentions the documentary film Blue Jeans about workers in sweatshop conditions and terrible pay and long hours  - where she mentions that NZ clothing firms have now closed and taken the business offshore to Asia. With the same ‘old reason’ - that it is un economic to run a business in NZ. Hence sweatshops produce cheap goods. 

Keeping the word ‘Slavery’ in the public consciousness 

The British want to always name it as Human Slavery - as against Trafficking - and horrendous as it is we are told that 12.5% of victims are in the sex industry and that the vast majority of others say 25% are children are slaves being under 18  and the rest are labour slaves.

Also mentioned were crew on ships coming to NZ ports, be it cargo ships or fishing boats and that many of the crew are found to be horrendously exploited. For with fishing boats they can be at sea for months on end and when they dock in NZ ports there is no real ‘haven’ for crew to go and enjoy ‘recreation and rest’ and she even states that though NZ has signed an agreement to offer up a place where visiting crew upon landing can find as a safe ‘location’ to reorient themselves - that has not been forthcoming. To the degree it was mentioned that the crew are often paid in US dollars and in Lyttelton she said there is no bank, they are for US$1.00 given change in NZ$1.00 - (one for one) which is totally immoral.   

Also mentioned

Kevin Bales a very courageous advocate  - Free the slaves - blood and earth - uncovers many dreadful situations around our planet - smart phones = mining rare earth minerals especially in the Congo.   He links the exploitation of the poor people to the exploitation of the earth.

Kathleen said with regards to paedaphile networks and sex traffic or organ harvesting etc - this was outside her field of expertise. 

Yes, the Jeffrey Epstein saga is the tip of the iceberg and there is a huge white slave trade going on that has lots of East European girls conned into applying for modelling careers outside of Eastern Europe and then once away from their own country are kidnapped and pushed into prostitution etc. 

Finally Tim mentioned the Executive Order signed on the 21st December 2017 by Donald Trump.

Executive Order Blocking the Property of Persons Involved in Serious Human Rights Abuse or Corruption

Law & Justice

Issued on: December 21, 2017

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.) (NEA), the Global Magnitsky Human Rights Accountability Act (Public Law 114-328) (the “Act”), section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (8 U.S.C. 1182(f)) (INA), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, find that the prevalence and severity of human rights abuse and corruption that have their source, in whole or in substantial part, outside the United States, such as those committed or directed by persons listed in the Annex to this order, have reached such scope and gravity that they threaten the stability of international political and economic systems. Human rights abuse and corruption undermine the values that form an essential foundation of stable, secure, and functioning societies; have devastating impacts on individuals; weaken democratic institutions; degrade the rule of law; perpetuate violent conflicts; facilitate the activities of dangerous persons; and undermine economic markets. The United States seeks to impose tangible and significant consequences on those who commit serious human rights abuse or engage in corruption, as well as to protect the financial system of the United States from abuse by these same persons.

I therefore determine that serious human rights abuse and corruption around the world constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States, and I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat.

Nov 20, 2019

He says, “In my lectures I will present the current scientific knowledge as well as the current lack of scientific research on the biological and health effects of the 5G millimeter-waves. I will also present the evidence, and the reasoning, for the invocation of the Precautionary Principle and for the temporary moratorium on 5G deployment, while awaiting for the much needed scientific research on millimeter-waves.”

Dr. Dariusz Leszczynski, PhD, DSc is Adjunct Professor of Biochemistry, Division of Biochemistry and Biotechnology, University of Helsinki, Finland.

He says: “I am scientist with keen interest in molecular biology research, or work as an expert/consultant, or as journal/book editor. Thanks to my age and working in universities around the world, I have a very broad experience in scientific research, in science publishing and in dissemination of scientific information to expert and lay-person audiences.”

Dr. Leszczynski, who researches non-ionizing radiation, emphasizes that, “there is a continuous talk about assuring that the 5G maintains low levels of EMF exposure. However, there is not sufficient scientific research to show that low levels assure no health effects in short- and long-term exposures (acute and chronic exposures). It seems that the telecom industry assumes that their low level exposures will not cause- ever -any health effects and the telecom industry forcefully imposes this scientifically unsupported assumption on others, especially governmental decision-makers.”

Rd. Leszczynski says there is an urgent need to start research studies examining effects of millimeter-waves on human health. However, there is a strong resistance from the telecom industry and from the decision-makers to start new research programs. The International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection (ICNIRP), and the telecom industry, strongly propagate the idea that the low power of EMF emissions from the 5G devices will guarantee that human health will not be affected.

However, the same assurances were made in the 70’s when the first generation of cell phones was commercialized, followed by the unlimited spread of the 2G, 3G and 4G devices – as long as the device emits radiation within the ICNIRP guidelines it is considered as safe, which is not necessarily the case as shown by a number of research studies. As a direct consequence of the scientific research, in 2011 the International Agency for Research on Cancer classified radiation emitted by the cell phones and cell towers as a possible human carcinogen. This classification appears to be strengthened by the new research studies on 3G and 4G-emitted EMF published after 2011. However, what the biomedical research on millimeter-waves, performed in the future, will show is a complete enigma.

Why hasn’t the media taken this up and warned us all? Dr. Leszczynski explained that in many cases new outlets rely on Telecom businesses to advertise with them and so it could be a financial hit if they spoke out against these companies. He also explained that the media is reluctant to be seen as scaremongering and looking like tin foil hat wearers. The same probably goes for universities and tertiary institutions relative silence on this.

I asked the professor what the difference between 4G and 5G were. He explained that 5g builds on 4G but then includes millimetre waves that are much shorter and higher energy waves. While they can carry more information, their range is less and they are easily blocked by buildings and trees etc, therefore requiring more transmitters at closer proximity.

I asked about the effect on trees and it appears to be inconclusive, but certainly it is possible that trees could suffer damage from the energy from cell phone towers.

Again not enough experiments have been carried out and we rely on anecdotal evidence.

It is the same with bees.  Dr. Leszczynski said there was a study done in Belgium that showed that the millimetre waves caused increased temperatures in bees, which could cause problems with bee behaviour, such as losing the way back to their hives, but there needs to be more study.

No matter what the future research will show, 5G technology will be by then fully deployed and without any possibility of reverse because the whole future life of humanity will be based and dependent on the functioning of the 5G radiation-emitting devices. He says, “This is a unique situation in the history of the human kind when the whole human population will be exposed to man-made devices emitting non-ionizing radiation that was insufficiently tested before deployment. What is and what will be the responsibility of the scientists, decision-makers and industry leaders who permit deployment of insufficiently tested technology that will affect us all? The answer is simple – no responsibility … because if any health problems will show up in the future, these will most likely take tens of years of time to manifest and, by then the persons that currently enable deployment of insufficiently tested radiation-emitting 5G technology will be retired or the proverbial “six feet under”.” 

What would Dr. Leszcynski say to the government?

*The IARC classification of RF-EMF as possible carcinogen is sufficient to trigger consideration of the Precautionary Principle.

*Recommendations concerning RF-EMF and health effects should be based on science. However, many committees (SCENIHR, ICNIRP, WHO, HPA, SSI) simply disregard evidence of effects from epidemiological case-control studies and animal studies and say that the effects are not seen in scientific studies. Such statements disregard the evidence at hand.

*General public, decision makers and scientists at large have no idea what are the “criteria” used by these committees to dismiss the positive studies because, description of these “criteria”, is not provided.

What would Dr. Leszcynski advise the government to do?

The Precautionary Principle should be used for RF-EMF and should include, among others: 

*Stop saying that there are no established non-thermal effect - if cancer risk increases in epidemiological studies it indicates that non-thermal effects happen. 

*Strengthen the safety standards; change them to reflect the current scientific evidence, showing the possibility of health effects. 

*Protect the children – applies to cell phone use; not so much cell towers. 

*Develop better technologies that emit less radiation. Reduce exposures of general population by making health agencies to advise people to do so.

Nov 14, 2019

Many of the concerns of NZ youth in their 14 to 15th years is all to do with ‘image and likes’ – it all involves smartphones and messaging and being and staying relevant within their peer group.

Notes from this important interview:
This was a real insight for me as a person in their 70’s.
Here is the gist.

Just living for the present is essentially where they are at. Nature and whales for example - are not really an issue.

He says that global warming is on the radar but not that big as yet – Greta Thunberg is not yet big - though some of the young girls have started to put out a ‘care’ on their smartphones as to sort of – look relevant - not so much with the boys – but some have … He also mentions that some will ‘put out’ that they care – but actually they will not take any action. So if there is a ‘viral concern’ this would be it.

As for the future – that’s still a way off – it’s essentially having fun and it's girls, guys and partying - and then there is school and academic studies.

Stating that when they hit 25 years of age - they may have another look at what’s up and what is important.

Relationships between guys and gals – he says after a long in-breath – are not good. He puts it down to social media – texting to each other – there is not a lot of communication that is grounded in a good vocabulary – how?

He says we should not blame social media – it’s how we are using it (all the time) that it has changed lives and promotes things – but he says other things have festered out of it – and there are pros and cons – and as a result of social media - relationships are quite messy.

Jesse says he is in a relationship and dating a gal, and he is not into texting to her. He wants to talk with her, see her expressions on her face, the tonalities of her voice - as well as body actions – and he says you just can’t get this out of text.
Sex between the younger generation – is in his words - messy.

The girls in many ways to remain relevant – it is all about relevancy – and many may succumb to exposing themselves. So texts and photos that are intimate are often unscrupulously passed around - and this sort of thing comes back as a vengeance and many embarrassing situations occur. It’s a lose-lose situation – but to be relevant– it continues to happen.

Covering sex, pregnancy and abortion … Suicide - listen
Instagram – now does not show likes on posts … to stop people comparing themselves with other people's ‘likes’ this is to curtail negative feelings and even suicide – such is the need for many of the youth to compare themselves with others - but they are still ‘worried’ about getting the most likes …

Most of the youth are on Instagram and snap chat plus the new one coming up called tick tock – it’s a 'lip synching' app. He said some youth are still on FB but not as much as the others.

When asked if the younger generation feel fortunate – especially to be living in NZ – and the answer is that in most cases the youth of today are so caught up in their life with its drama, frustrations and challenges that they do not see themselves as being fortunate. Even though NZ has so much physical beauty, as well as freedom of speech that a lot of other countries don’t have. NZ is a fairly peaceful country too. A majority healthy country !! Youth are so fortunate here - but they do not take time to realise it.

When asked about God for today's young teens – to admit to God – it is considered and embarrassment – listen to this …
Karma – he personally believes in this – that good things and good vibes generate good things and good vibes … but, it is not prevalent as a word in the daily narrative of present day youth. He himself does good by just doing life with no expectation that he is going to receive some wonderful good karmic event – he is just basically doing life and doing it without any expectation ...
Baby boomers – he is not hard on them – as he sees his generations as not doing a lot as well.

5G tech – that the baby boomers are concerned about but what of the youth of today who are wedded to 4 G? What is youths take on 5G? Essentially unaware of the health risks etc. However he himself is very aware of what these new technologies can cause.

Rubbish on the footpath and rubbish on the beach – Jesse – picks it up. Is happy to be a role model. But, this too is not an issue.

Covering transgender issues – especially males entering females races and weight lifting and winning is this fair? – the challenge around transgender toilets – listen

Parent's – how he is very close to his parents and love is warmly expressed. They love each other. When asked about his friends relationships with their parents, he said that there is a lot of difficulty at that level. However, he gets on really well with all his friends parents.

Communication skills need to be taught especially around being able to coherently express oneself. Verbal skills he says are very important. That it is imperative for good communication - as far too many people are being caught up in the minutiae of millennial problems. Alcohol is a huge problem – not weed.

I came away from this interview basically very concerned about the focus of today’s teenage youth. It's as if a huge manifested bubble based on a construct of social media habits perpetuates itself to compel youth to think that having a new smartphone and texting each other is all that is relevant.

This is where we as a country need to address the concerns of our young ones and this has to be led from both the grass roots and from leadership at the very top of our country.

Nov 7, 2019

Cannabidiol (CBD) is non intoxicating and is safe to use, yet it is heavily regulated, unnecessarily expensive, and there is much prejudice from lack of knowledge about this product.

How it can become more easily accessible in New Zealand may be centred around whether it ends up becoming regulated as a food or as a medicine, and the results of the upcoming referendum.

In this informative interview, Tadhg speaks in depth about this, the history of cannabis, the extensive uses of hemp, and  medical cannabis.

Tadhg asks:

Are you concerned about the state of the world? I am.

Lord Rutherford, (atom splitter), said that "we don't have money, so we have to think". It's time that we did that, because the status quo is failing. So, what do we need, and how do we get it?

 A wealthy society needs good food, fibre/chemical feedstock, and medicine. 

Imagine getting all of that from one plant, and it all being of the best quality. 

That's the kind of crop we need in a climate changing world, a sustainable competitor to the petro-chemical and pharmaceutical industries.

Its curious to note, that despite Hemp offering us these gifts, it is that rare thing; a prohibited plant. 

 In NZ and much of the world, hemp is only able to be grown under strict conditions, and farmers usually struggle against hostile bureaucrats. In Canada, for example, farmers were prevented from selling fifty two billion dollars worth of hemp products over the last twenty years. The same practices exist here in NZ.

But Hemp is so useful, that it was a crime not to grow it in both Britain and the USA. In fact, you could even pay US taxes in hemp. Hemp was as good as gold, and used to make everything from dollar bills to the US Declaration of Independence (both Washington and Jefferson were Hemp farmers).

Hemp clothes are tougher and more breathable than cotton, and anti-bacterial too. (Hemp does not require the water and pesticides of cotton either).

Hemp makes breathable fireproof building materials, superconductors, plastics, fuels, and produces four times the cellulose of pine in only six months.

Hemp nut foods are better than anything else nutritionally. 30% digestible protein, all Omegas (3, 6, 9) and aminos, with Calcium, Magnesium and other essential elements in unusually generous quantities.

Most Renaissance painting was done on hemp, and with hemp paint. empen paints, hemp plastics, hemp medicines, the basis of Imperial power for millennia, and then imagine it being prohibited on the irrational grounds that hemp is a dangerous narcotic that causes interracial rape and murder.

The removal of this premier sustainable product left world markets open for the petro-chemical and pharmaceutical industries. 

Despite written records of its medicinal use dating back 4,750 years, (including fifty years where it was a major European/US medicine), the modern medical system seems strangely opposed to the notion of hemp medicine.

This is especially curious given that hemp is full of 'our bodies own medicine'.

To clarify, Hemp contains molecules called 'cannabinoids', and so do we.

In our body we make 'endocannabinoids' (endo means 'inside'). 

We are cellular beings, and for six hundred million years these molecules have been natures standard means for information exchange at the cellular level. 

They are 'signalling metabolites', like essential little e-mails inside us.

Without them, we cannot maintain normal function/health. Without them, we die.

That's why hemp is connected with a ludicrous array of therapeutic effects. Not because it's a magic hippy thing, but because the plant contains analogues of the molecules we make and need to maintain 'homeostasis', or balance/normal function.

So when we use hemp properly, as a food, we are supporting our bodies ability to maintain its own health through our cannabinoid system of G-Protein Coupled Receptors.

Its interesting to note that GPCRs are 'highly responsive to nutrition', that medical schools do not teach nutrition, and that medical schools do not teach about GPCRs-despite them being our mechanism of health regulation and protection. 

'Medical cannabis' is a bit of a swindle, because all we really need to improve health outcomes is to return hemp to the food web and markets. 

You can see the impact non-advertised legal hemp flower has had on medicine sales in Italy here

Italian medicine sales are down everywhere, and by 11% in some categories.

This is why. Here are seven of the 140+ plant cannabinoids, and their proven effects.

Niccolo Machiavelli said that "there is nothing more difficult to carry out, nor doubtful of success, nor more dangerous to handle, than to initiate a new order of things. For the reformer has enemies in all those who profit by the old order." But we all know that the current order of things is destroying our habitat and creating an authoritarian corporate neo-feudalism. To change this we must increase our economic sovereignty and environmental sustainability. The premier natural resource for achieving this is industrial hemp, but to get it we must understand it and demand better from our politicians.

The Hemp Foundation -


Community Notices re 5g: 

'5G Technology on Health and the Environment' 

          Lecture by Professor Dariusz Leszczynski 

            6:30pm Tuesday 19th November 

Auckland University Library Lecture Theatre B15

Princes St and Alfred St corner (Building 109) across from Albert Park

Doors open 6:00pm. Donations towards costs gratefully received.

Prof Leszczynski  will also be speaking in

Hawkes Bay Sun 24Nov

Wellington Weds 27 Nov

Nelson Fri 29 Nov.

What is known about the potential cumulative long term exposure to untested 5G technology? What does the science tell us?

Does this require invocation of the precautionary principle until it can be proven safe? 

Leszczynski, is a leading International expert on Electromagnetic Bioeffects Research, who will present the Pros and Cons of 5G Technology in the academic arena. It is a rare opportunity for the NZ public to have informed debate on the issue.

We need to raise more money for Prof Leszczynski’s tour.

You can help at the Givealittle page -

You may also like to sign our 5G petition asking for the precautionary principle until 5G is proven safe.


Are you concerned about the state of the world? I am.

Lord Rutherford, (atom splitter), said that "we don't have money, so we have to think". It's time that we did that, because the status quo is failing. So, what do we need, and how do we get it?

A wealthy society needs good food, fibre/chemical feedstock, and medicine.

Imagine getting all of that from one plant, and it all being of the best quality. 

That's the kind of crop we need in a climate changing world, a sustainable competitor to the petro-chemical and pharmaceutical industries.

Its curious to note, that despite Hemp offering us these gifts, it is that rare thing; a prohibited plant.

In NZ and much of the world, hemp is only able to be grown under strict conditions, and farmers usually struggle against hostile bureaucrats. In Canada, for example, farmers were prevented from selling fifty two billion dollars worth of hemp products over the last twenty years. The same practices exist here in NZ.

But Hemp is so useful, that it was a crime not to grow it in both Britain and the USA. In fact, you could even pay US taxes in hemp. Hemp was as good as gold, and used to make everything from dollar bills to the US Declaration of Independence (both Washington and Jefferson were Hemp farmers).

Hemp clothes are tougher and more breathable than cotton, and anti-bacterial too. (Hemp does not require the water and pesticides of cotton either).

Hemp makes breathable fireproof building materials, superconductors, plastics, fuels, and produces four times the cellulose of pine in only six months.

Hemp nut foods are better than anything else nutritionally. 30% digestible protein, all Omegas (3, 6, 9) and aminos, with Calcium, Magnesium and other essential elements in unusually generous quantities.

Most Renaissance painting was done on hemp, and with hemp paint. empen paints, hemp plastics, hemp medicines, the basis of Imperial power for millennia, and then imagine it being prohibited on the irrational grounds that hemp is a dangerous narcotic that causes interracial rape and murder.

The removal of this premier sustainable product left world markets open for the petro-chemical and pharmaceutical industries. 

Despite written records of its medicinal use dating back 4,750 years, (including fifty years where it was a major European/US medicine), the modern medical system seems strangely opposed to the notion of hemp medicine.

This is especially curious given that hemp is full of 'our bodies own medicine'.

To clarify, Hemp contains molecules called 'cannabinoids', and so do we.

In our body we make 'endocannabinoids' (endo means 'inside'). 

We are cellular beings, and for six hundred million years these molecules have been natures standard means for information exchange at the cellular level. 

They are 'signalling metabolites', like essential little e-mails inside us.

Without them, we cannot maintain normal function/health. Without them, we die.

That's why hemp is connected with a ludicrous array of therapeutic effects. Not because it's a magic hippy thing, but because the plant contains analogues of the molecules we make and need to maintain 'homeostasis', or balance/normal function.

So when we use hemp properly, as a food, we are supporting our bodies ability to maintain its own health through our cannabinoid system of G-Protein Coupled Receptors.

Its interesting to note that GPCRs are 'highly responsive to nutrition', that medical schools do not teach nutrition, and that medical schools do not teach about GPCRs-despite them being our mechanism of health regulation and protection.

'Medical cannabis' is a bit of a swindle, because all we really need to improve health outcomes is to return hemp to the food web and markets. 

You can see the impact non-advertised legal hemp flower has had on medicine sales in Italy here

Italian medicine sales are down everywhere, and by 11% in some categories.

This is why. Here are seven of the 140+ plant cannabinoids, and their proven effects.

Niccolo Machiavelli said that "there is nothing more difficult to carry out, nor doubtful of success, nor more dangerous to handle, than to initiate a new order of things. For the reformer has enemies in all those who profit by the old order." But we all know that the current order of things is destroying our habitat and creating an authoritarian corporate neo-feudalism. To change this we must increase our economic sovereignty and environmental sustainability. The premier natural resource for achieving this is industrial hemp, but to get it we must understand it and demand better from our politicians.

Oct 31, 2019

The poor today are always working long hours in menial jobs to pay off something that is continuously breaking down. In many ways they are being punished for being poor.


If you have a hot jug, fan heater, hairdryer, juicer, toaster, vacuum cleaner and other consumer white ware - with a bit of luck you may get two to three year’s life out of them - and then they are off to the landfill. 


This interview of Rex Weyler, is one of the original Greenpeace activists - when it was more a volunteer organisation - and they were true Rainbow Warriors - tells of the continuous battle on bringing humankind to become accountable and responsible for the wanton abuse and use of the earth’s critical resources. 


This below is Rex’s most recent article ‘Its a waste world’ that was printed in Greenpeace Magazine

A popular bumper sticker in the United States – typically seen on large vehicles, with giant wheels and vibrating chrome muffler pipes – reads: “My carbon footprint is bigger than yours.” This appears as a banner for the culture of extravagant indulgence. And wherever consumption is encouraged and admired, waste follows.

The world’s rich cultures are all wasteful, and not just because of excessive fossil fuel use. Even our modern electronic devices represent a massive waste stream. Last year, electronic waste reached an all-time record of 65 million tonnes.

Planned Obsolescence


Used bulb lamps collected by Greenpeace volunteers during the clean up at Bokor Island conservation area on Thousand Islands. © Dhemas Reviyanto / Greenpeace

Even modern LED light bulbs, for example, do not last as long as incandescent bulbs made a century ago. One carbon filament light bulb, at a fire station in Livermore, California, is still burning continuously after 120 years. Building things that last, and consuming modestly, used to be common human values. But that all changed with the advent of contemporary business models and modern marketing.

In 1924, three companies – Dutch Philips, German Osram, and US General Electric – formed a cartel, Phoebus, to shorten the life of light bulbs. Making light bulbs that could last 100 years limited their sales growth. They agreed on a thousand-hour standard, about three or four months of normal use, the historic beginning of planned obsolescence.

During World War I, the U.S. Treasury Department launched a frugality campaign to save resources for the war effort. Merchants, however, opposed the initiative. According to Giles Slade in Made to Break, US stores displayed signs such as, “Beware of Thrift,” and “Business as Usual.” New York retailers formed the “National Prosperity Committee,” with slogans like, “Full Speed Ahead!” and “Clear the Track for Prosperity!”

During the global economic depression in 1932, New York manufacturers circulated a pamphlet: “Ending the Depression through Planned Obsolescence,” the first known printed use of this phrase. An article in Printer’s Ink journal warned that the idea of durability was “outmoded,” claiming that, “If merchandise does not wear out faster, factories will be idle, people unemployed.” Paul Mazur, a partner at Lehman Brothers, declared that obsolescence, designing products to fail or wear out, was the “new god” of business philosophy.

In 1950s America, advertising firms learned that they could sell products not based on function, quality, or durability, but on novelty. Products were sold as “new,” “modern,” and “innovative,” whether or not the “innovations” offered any genuine value. The throwaway fashion industry was born on the notion that clothing “styles” allegedly changed every year, and that to appear “modern,” one must repeatedly buy new clothing. Ad agencies convinced popular journals to publish fashion sections to inform, or manipulate, the public regarding the latest styles.

Thus, the idea of well-made, durable products died away in rich nations, replaced by products that break, wear out, become obsolete, or go out of fashion. This trend has now seized the modern electronics industry.

E-waste and the cost of high tech


A small child sitting among cables and e-waste in Guiyu, China © Greenpeace / Natalie Behring

Since the 1980s, computers and electronic devices have made lives in rich countries more convenient and entertaining. Some observers expected that modern electronics would also make society more “efficient,” that computers would save paper and other resources. Those hopes, however, encountered what is known in economics as the “rebound effect“: Efficiency often leads to more resource use, not less. Human enterprise now uses six times more paper than we used at the dawn of the computer age, six times more lithium, five times more cobalt, more iron, copper, and more rare earth metals.

Mining for these minerals tends to be ecologically destructive and exploitive of human labourers. Due to increasing demand and low rates of electronics recycling, mining companies are now proposing strip mines on the ocean floor, a practice that ocean biologists say would permanently damage unique and biodiverse ocean ecosystems.

As computer chips got smaller, more powerful, and more energy efficient, the material and energy intensity of those chips increased exponentially. Since our computers require so little energy to operate, we may believe they are “efficient,” but we are measuring the wrong metric. To understand the high cost of high tech, we must consider the embodied energy built into our devices, our telecom infrastructure, server networks, and data centres. We also have to consider the sheer growth of consumption and the acceleration of waste.

According to Statisa, about 4 million cell phones are sold every day, over 1.5 billion per year. About 250 million computers are sold each year. The average lifetime of these devices is now about two and a half years. Manufacturers design in obsolescence, changing critical parts and marketing more fashionable, “improved” devices. We may marvel at social media and connectivity, but this level of consumption leaves behind a massive, toxic, and destructive waste stream.


Discarded computer monitor casings in a lagoon in Ghana. © Greenpeace / Kate Davison

Apple Corporation has become notorious for designing smartphones, tablets, and laptops that are difficult to repair or upgrade. These policies are not an accident or a necessity of technological advance. They are marketing decisions, designed specifically, like the three-month light bulb, to sell more products.

Between June 29, 2007 and November 3, 2017, Apple introduced 14 new iPhone models, one every 37 weeks. The company stopped supporting the first generation phones within three years, and continues to make previous phones obsolete and unsupported.

According to Jason Koebler at Motherboard, “Apple is trying to kill legislation that would make it easier for normal people to fix iPhones.” Apple designs products with proprietary parts that cannot be easily repaired and the company has actively lobbied against right-to-repair legislation in the US. According to a study, both Apple and Sony have blocked environmental electronics standards that would support repair, upgrade, and recycling.

However, Apple Corporation is not alone. According to a 2017 Greenpeace report, other consumer electronics companies are lagging far behind. Although Apple has made progress in the use of renewable energy they are “moving in the wrong direction,” along with Microsoft and Samsung, by shortening the useful life of devices. Samsung, Amazon, Oppo, Vivo, and Xiaomi receive failing grades in every category, using toxic chemicals and dirty energy, making short-lived products that are difficult to recycle, and hiding the data about their practices. On the other hand, HP, Dell, and Fairphone are leaders in producing products that are repairable and upgradable.

Electronic waste has now reached over 65 million tonnes per year. Computers, screens, and small hand devices comprise about 22% of that waste, 14 million tonnes annually. According to a 2014 UN Report, Europe produced the highest per-capita electronic waste, over 15 kilograms per person every year. Asia generated the most e-waste, 16 million metric tonnes, followed by the Americas, 11.7 million tonnes per year. Since 2014 those volumes have increase by about 50%.

System Change

As with most of our ecological challenges, there are solutions, but the response requires more than marginal change. According to Deishin Lee, at MIT’s Sloan School of Management, “most waste is generated on purpose,” built into modern business models. Lee criticizes “output-oriented,” production systems that only consider the product. “Every output-oriented process,” she writes, “is designed to produce waste.” We can overcome this by shifting to input-oriented production, considering the value of all resources, how to conserve, and how to use resources effectively, with a minimum of waste.


Smartphone repair © RIcardo Padilla Roman / Greenpeace

Economist Tim Cooper, at Nottingham Trent University believes that a transformation away from planned obsolescence will require a “radical, systemic change.” In his book, “Longer Lasting Products,” Cooper suggests the change could be accomplish with economic policies to encourage minimum standards of durability, repairability, and upgradeability.

Quality goods, robust repair-and-servicing, and secondhand markets would result in more jobs and more economic activity for a given amount of resources. Cooper calculates that when consumers spend less on throwaway products, they will spend more for other services and investments.

In “Culture of Waste,” Julian Cribb, a fellow of the Australian Academy of Technological Sciences and Engineering, describes how we could reverse the trends toward food waste with government regulation to limit wasteful practices, full-cost pricing and taxing, subsidies for good stewardship production, and with education. The 2017, Greenpeace Report, advocates similar actions to create closed loop, circular production, beginning at the design stage, with all companies required to design recyclable parts, easy repair, and a take-back program for all products.

Growth swamps efficiency

Everything we build requires energy. Wasteful practices waste energy. Although we are witnessing an unprecedented effort to develop renewable energy, we are failing to keep pace with growth in demand. Unless we address the growth of human numbers and human enterprise, we are destined for the natural results of ecological overshoot. We also need to phase out fossil fuels and redouble efforts to build renewable energy infrastructure.

The following chart – prepared by Canadian energy engineer David Hughes, using data from the 2019 BP Energy Review – shows the annual growth in renewable energy compared to the annual growth in electricity demand. A great deal of this demand is due to wasteful manufacturing and sales practices. Two-thirds of the growth is met with fossil fuels. Furthermore, this only accounts for electricity. 83% of the world’s energy consumption is non-electric.


The only year that renewable energy growth exceeded demand growth occurred in 2009 during an economic recession. This chart reveals two critical pieces of our waste and energy challenge: (1) Renewable energy growth is not keeping pace with total energy demand, and (2) The way to turn this around is to end the expectation of endless economic growth. Some companies, such as Fairphone and Patagonia, have business models that account for slowing growth.

The idea that we should keep businesses growing by creating waste is no longer valid – and never was. We can employ more people by building quality products and repairing them. To reverse the trend of wasteful production, biodiversity collapse, carbon emissions that cause global heating, and general ecological overshoot, humanity has to embrace modest consumption and put an end to the era of extravagant indulgence.


References and Links

“E-waste World Map Reveals National Volumes, International Flows,” StEP Initiative, 2013, Quoted in Greenpeace E-Waste report, 2016.
E-waste: The Escalation of a Global Crisis, TCO certified
“Made to Break: Technology and Obsolescence in America,” Giles Slade, Harvard University Press, 2007; and excerpts at Google Books.
“A Culture of Waste,” Julian Cribb, Ecology Today, 2012.
Guide to Greener Electronics 2017, Greenpeace Reports, October 17, 2017
“Overcoming the culture of waste” Deishin Lee, MIT, Sloan School of Management, 2017.
Power-hungry gadgets endanger energy efficiency gains, review of The International Energy Association analysis, John Timmer, 2009, ARS Technica.
The Global E-waste Monitor, 2014: UN University, 2014.
“Electronic Waste (E-Waste): How Big of a Problem is it?” Rubicon, 2018
Facts and Figures on E-Waste and Recycling, Electronics Takeback Coalition, 2014
“The monster footprint of digital technology,” Kris de Decker, Low-Tech Magazine,
“Electronics Standards Are In Need of Repair,” Mark Schaffer,, August 2017.
“Apple is against your-right to repair i-Phones New York state records confirm,” Jason Koebler, Motherboard, 2017.
“Longer Lasting Products: Alternatives to the Throwaway Society,” Tim Cooper, Gower Books, 2010.
Culture and Waste: The Creation and Destruction of Value, Edited by Gay Hawkins and Stephen Muecke, Rowman & Littlefield, 2002.
“The L.E.D. Quandary: Why There’s No Such Thing as ‘Built to Last’,” J. B. MacKinnon, New Yorker, 2016.
“Patagonia’s Anti-growth Strategy,” J.B. MacKinnon, New Yorker, 2015.

What is happening here in NZ?
Here in NZ we continue with this ‘business as usual’ attitude, superimposed over the whole country. It is ‘taken for granted’ and the NZ Government is basically none the wiser. They just continue to carry on as if everything is normal.

The NZ struggle to get recycling more efficient
NZ has not been able to get a deposit on soft drink or beer bottles, where once we had them. As a kid I used to be continuously walking up and down the main road collecting beer bottles as they were in those days just thrown out the window of cars. At the big rugby games at towns, dur9ng the curtain raiser prior to the main game, I was always able to collect enough coke and lemonade bottles to be able to buy a drink and a hot pie and have some change left over. 
Why has NZ not been able to follow the legislation as in the State of South Australia and in the State of Oregon in the USA.  Because, like all the other states in Australia and the USA - business interests in both these countries have overridden prudent ecological policies.  Time and time again the breweries and Coke cola with huge financial resources and well paid lawyers - have been able to stop a deposit with regard to recycling - in its tracks. Hence, the throw away mentality is still prevalent in NZ especially with the unconscious male macho way of life. 

Yet, it could be said that as an extension of the top of this article that stoves, fridges etc don’t last long too too, when compared to how they were built 50 years ago.
A person working at a local transfer station north of Auckland said - If it was not for the Warehouse - he would not have a job! (The Bargain was not necessarily a bargain)

Some of the other issues talked about in this interview was that big business is still calling the shots.
One of the issues is that businesses do not look at our planet as a complex living super system. They fail to see the biosphere as a homeostatic, self regulating system of trillions of living creatures that are all delicately balanced and embedded in the web of life.
Their (very limited) perspective is that they are on ‘a platform’ - that has raw products coming in (they are not interested in where these products come from or how they are extracted or gained) -  all they want to do is then push (highly packaged) product out onto the market. It also does not really matter how much pollution they produce in the process - hence various governments world wide - have had to enforce clean air and clean water standards on businesses to force them to comply.
This has been an ongoing ‘battle’ for over 100 years.
There is no thought of ‘nature’ in any business model.  Where as in America there is a remarkable treatise on this thought to come from a First Nations ‘Indian’ called Chief Seattle.     

Privatise the Profits and Socialise the Costs - This means putting products or services on the market and if they do not measure up, then society picks up the costs.  - Cigarette companies did this with cigarettes. They made money out of selling them but when smokers ended up in hospital beds - especially in countries with ‘free’ hospital care - it was those countries (the taxpayers) that paid to take care and treat those dying patients.

It  was the same when the Wall Street bankers in New York took insane monetary risks back in 2008 whilst still collecting ‘extremely inflated commissions and salaries’ - that they threatened to collapse the whole US and world banking system. That the US Government was then ‘forced’ to bail them out - with the US taxpayer taking the hit.
This same mentality is pervasive within the current business world. Privatise the profit and socialise the losses. That there is now such a devastating effect by having to clean up the global environment as a result of business practices that did not factor in a healthy future of the world’s children.

Cradle to Cradle  - and the Circular Economy
Cradle to Cradle was mentioned.
Cradle to Cradle is a design framework for going beyond sustainability and designing for abundance in a Circular Economy.
The Upcycle: Beyond Sustainability—Designing for Abundance is the eagerly awaited follow-up to Cradle to Cradle. Drawing on a decade of lessons, William McDonough & Michael Braungart put Cradle to Cradle®concepts into practice with businesses, governments, and people around the world.
Prof Dr Michael Braungart gave an interview on the subject of microplastics on 23-10-2018 in the ZDF news programme heute+. Car tyres are the main cause of the microplasty discovered in the human intestine, says environmental expert Michael Braungart. The main problem is the harmful pollution.

In the 1980s, Braungart dedicated his work to the environmental organization Greenpeace and beginning in 1982 helped to establish the chemistry section of Greenpeace International, which he took over in 1985. In the same year he received his Ph.D. from the University of Hannover's chemistry department. In order to develop solutions for complex environmental problems, EPEA was established by Greenpeace in 1987. Ever since, Braungart has been involved with research and consultancy for eco-effective products i.e. products and production processes in a loop, not only harmless to man or nature, but beneficial.

Time magazine recognized William McDonough in 1999 as a “Hero for the Planet.” In 1996, Mr. McDonough received the Presidential Award for Sustainable Development, and in 2003 he earned the first U.S. EPA Presidential Green Chemistry Challenge Award. In 2004, he received the National Design Award for achievement in the field of environmental design. In July 2014, Mr. McDonough was appointed as Chair of the World Economic Forum Meta-Council on Circular Economy.

Also mentioned was that we are reaching limits to growth and Rex and I touched on some of the major environmental challenges now affecting the biosphere.

Japanase built cars superior to American cars
It was quickly noted that when the Japanese car companies came to North America that it only took a few years or so for the American people to realise that Japanes cars were not only more reliable but they lasted longer. The planned obsolescent cars from Ford, General Motors and now defunct Chrysler were far inferior to the Japanese brands - hence their continued success in the US car market today. 

Apple in the US comes in for some well earned criticism in the interview.

That between June 29, 2007 and November 3, 2017, Apple introduced 14 new iPhone models, one every 37 weeks. The company stopped supporting the first generation phones within three years, and continues to make previous phones obsolete and unsupported. Listen - Apple are not your kind and caring corporation. They are a hard nosed business wanting to continually corner the market for their own ends. Listen to how they and Sony stopped legislation to not allow their products to be repaired.  

“Apple is trying to kill legislation that would make it easier for normal people to fix iPhones.”

A Global commitment to CHANGE …
Transformation away from planned obsolescence will require a “radical, systemic change.”  to encourage minimum standards of durability, repairability, and upgradeability. What's wrong with 10 years for everything over $4,000?
Having quality goods, robust repair-and-servicing, and secondhand markets would result in more jobs and more economic activity for a given amount of resources.
We could also reverse the trends toward food waste with government regulation to limit wasteful practices, full-cost pricing and taxing, subsidies for good stewardship production, and with education. 

2017, Greenpeace Report, advocates similar actions to create closed loop, circular production, beginning at the design stage, with all companies required to design recyclable parts, easy repair, and a take-back program for all products.

There is a limit to growth on a finite planet
There is a limit to growth - that if one becomes an astronaut or a cosmonaut - they see clearly from space - that life within the biosphere can only take so much.  That the increase in human numbers and their extracting and polluting practices is overwhelming the natural worlds ability to rebalance these intrusions because of the short time span.

Rex mentioned, that unless we address the growth of human numbers and human enterprise, we are destined for the natural results of ecological overshoot. We also need to phase out fossil fuels and redouble efforts to build renewable energy infrastructure.

France Under French law it is a crime to intentionally shorten lifespan of a product with the aim of making customers replace it. ... The French investigation is being led by the economy ministry's consumer protection agency. It follows a legal complaint filed in December by pro-consumer group Stop Planned Obsolescence (Hop).Jan 8, 2018

End of the line for stuff that's built to die?

A new French law demands that manufacturers display how long their appliances will last. Could this stop planned obsolescence – products designed with restricted lifetimes?

Apple investigated by France for 'planned obsolescence' - BBC News  - This is a Silicon Valley newspaper.

Also covered was Regenerative Farming and Biological Farming as a way to make soils more healthy and keep the soil from being blown and washed off the land. This farming method is most definitely the most important way to regenerate our land without using fertilisers.

So there we have it
However, it goes far deeper than this.  Listen
This is a very important interview - on an imperilled planet that is awash with rubbish, toxins and the throw away society. That we have to ask the question - are we throwing away our future and our children and grandchildren with it? Time for decisive action, from the Grass Roots up. Not top down from the summit of the Pyramid of Businessmen and Bankers. This has to be where all ‘grassroots’ groups as in localised communities across every nation need to be brought into the conversation and also the planning and action.

Oct 24, 2019

Professor Frederick von Dreger, (former Chairman, Dept of Political Science, UPEI, Canada) retired, dissects media  'deceptions' and 'hoaxes' - and tells us that governments, universities, and the media have been obscuring the truth from the public - for decades.    

As a Conspiracy Analyst. - he states that Google and its offshoot Youtube, plus Twitter, and Facebook are constantly using algorithms to censor what we see and access in the Western world. 

Yet, awash with data and all sorts of information that we network, we trust that our understanding is accurate and that the wording is in fact the truth of the matter. All of this having to do with our sovereignty and liberation as individuals and at the same time desiring to unify us as a humanity which collectively shares the same aspirations.  

We are already involved in World War Three

Professor von Dreger says that at this moment we in the western world are now in effect experiencing a sort of "World War Three" - a massive conflict, not of direct physical violence but a massive chaotic series of battles of misinformation, disinformation, hoaxes and deceptions of all kinds in which we are now sadly and very deeply involved. This is mainly due to MSM (MainStream Media) including Universities and various professions and so on.

The US Intelligence Agency invented the term: Conspiracy Theory.

Professor von Dreger's overview is this: He says that people who look at what’s going on behind the misinformation and disinformation are often called 'conspiracy theorists' - so it's important  to look at the word and realise that it was 'coined' - invented - by the CIA after the assassination of President Kennedy. And the reason that they did this was to ridicule people who had any sort of suspicion about what had actually happened, and to persuade most people that the official story of Lee Harvey Oswald as the lone gunman is totally correct - whereas in fact the report issued by the commission set up to investigate the matter is not true. There were actually several people involved in the shooting of President Kennedy - and the people who have researched this have documented what that deception and conspiracy is all about.

So the term ‘Conspiracy Theory’ was invented and used to ridicule people in order to discredit anyone who is suspicious or directly opposed to the ‘official story’. Now people who are seriously investigating, researching and documenting what is actually happening have started calling themselves ‘conspiracy analysts’’ and Ayran as an 80 year old sees that more and more people are doing deeper research into events that have occurred which leave unanswered questions - especially looking behind the disinformation and misinformation that is being provided by the MSM as well as governmental and other 'official' sources.

Big Tech Corporations and their OverArching Control  

He states that this dis-information and mis-information is being propagated by major institutions - techno giants such as Google - and he emphasises the fact that Google, Facebook and Twitter - plus Amazon and Youtube are all owned and controlled by the same people. These very few people at the top thus have the capacity and the power to put out information as to what is going on - and they are the ones who are interested in what some would call "dumbing down" the population - but Ayran points out that it is more like 'confusing' the population with information which is partial and distorted, when not actually incorrect. 

Professor von Dreger said that we are seeing this very clearly since the advent of the expression 'Fake News' which came up with the election of President Trump. If you look back 4 or 5 years ago - this expression was not in the public vocabulary. He said that their reason for putting out Fake News by the Main Stream Media - CNN, The New York Times, The Washington Post (owned by the 'so called' richest man on earth - Jeff Bezos of Amazon) and other major publications - is to cause confusion and chaos and as a result to increase their control over the population.

The major institutions in the 'System' are letting us down

What are these major institutions ? A central one is the present Banking conglomerate, one of whose major responsibilities is meant to hold and secure people's deposits and savings. That task is to a large extent not being carried out in favour of the population. Instead of doing that, the major banks are not only "skimming the cream off the top" but amassing it in their own hands. However, Prof von Dreger points out that people are increasingly awakening to the fact that these banks - such as the American Federal Reserve, the German Deutsche Bank, and even the Vatican bank - are in fact amassing vast wealth and therefore more  power and control in their own hands.

Psychopaths and Sociopaths

He then says that many of the people at the top of these banking and media conglomerates are, clinically speaking, psychopaths and sociopaths. The characteristic of such types enables them to use their financial power and political control to foment wars and all sorts of corrupt dealings, and still be able to sleep at night. He then says that he and I, (Tim) - like most of the rest of the population, could not do that.


He continues that these ‘families’ belong to certain family bloodlines - and that if he mentioned any names you would most probably recognise them immediately. Families and clans such as the Rothschilds - and similar ones that everyone has heard of - are obvious examples. He said he will not delve into names other than saying there is a very small clique - often called the Cabal, the Globalists - some call them the "Illuminati" - he just refers to them as the 'Big Boys' - that they are the people that are controlling the System and increasingly getting richer, whilst  the poor are continuously becoming more marginalised and poorer and that this has become very marked in the last 20 years or so.

Shrinking Middle Class

Thus the middle class are finding themselves being squeezed and more so - and are losing and struggling far more. This can be noticed with jobs disappearing, with fewer ordinary permanent occupations and only casual jobs - foreign people are being brought in to undercut wages - and off-shoring work by corporations to China etc where there is a  cheaper labour pool. This knock on effect makes the middle class shrink and become poorer and cash strapped..

What is the mindset of these psychopaths and sociopaths?

Then Ayran asks the question? What is it that makes the psychopath able to do this? He says that they come from backgrounds where they themselves in their upbringing have been socialised and brainwashed - or indoctrinated.  - So how do they do that?  

He gives an example of one such place where they gather - in this case Bohemian Grove which is in Northern California - with is a large 2,700 acres estate among trees where the rich, be it businessmen, politicians and persons of note - attend gatherings and have strange ceremonies. These ceremonies are weird - and he says there is clear evidence of this in the form of video documentaries, some of which have been published on youtube. It’s a very protected enclave - only invited members may show up - most are from the global as well as the American elite. Note also that very few, if any, women are ever present there. So what do they do?

They obviously hang out with each other and have a good time. One such ceremony is when they dress up in black robes - wear peculiar black hats and carry torches and stand in front of a 40 foot stone owl called Moloch in a ceremony called the - ‘Cremation of Care’ (listen) Evidently - even the elite have to go through a further process that even if you have any 'care' whatsoever about your fellow human beings - that has to be extinguished - and hence the name - the ‘Cremation of Care’ - and Ayran says - it is really deadly stuff. Listen.

Mentioned in this interview are the Bilderbergers, the Skull and Bones, the Council of Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission plus the Club of Rome, all of them being ‘closed’ societies where one can only attend or join through personal invitation by one or other of those who Ayran calls the members of the "Big Boys Club".

Nefarious Activities?

What is claimed in this interview is that this elite is involved in much of the drug trade - the opioids - which is a total calamity - particularly in the US. Also, human trafficking - including the sex trade - and that they are involved and associated with the pedaphila group. That the top pedophiles, the top banking and media people are all connected at other levels as well - in what President Eisenhower called the Military Industrial Complex. Prof von Dreger points out that this is an interconnected group of the elite and that these very same people are involved in a major ‘coup’ centred in the United States Government at the present time.

Donald Trump is now battling this Global Elite

What is conveyed in this interview is that certain military often called the ‘white hats’ have recruited Donald Trump to take down the so called global elite and controllers of banking, people trafficking and pedophilia.

That there is also a growing split in America - that people are being polarised - that even the Alphabet agencies - the FBI, CIA and NSA are split, including many agencies of which there are about 15 or 16, many of which most people have never heard of. All divided between the so called ‘white hats’ - the ones who want to restore the ordinary rule of law and the American Constitution - and the black hats or globalists whose objective is to bring about a New World Order to centralise all power and control in their hands. As the story told by Ayran continues - certain top operatives in these agencies along with the US military, particularly army generals who have been fighting endless costly wars that have destroyed millions of lives and used and spat out traumatised soldiers to be virtually left to survive the best they can  - have said enough. No more foreign wars and wasting trillions of dollars on other people’s wars, especially those caused by the US Neocons.

Military Support

Notice that Trump has on so many occasions had photos of him surrounded by military Generals.

The result being that - they supposedly asked Trump to assist them to restore the US Republic.

As the story unfolds these - top brass and others - approached Trump and asked him to stand for president in order to lead a massive movement to use all possible legal means to "take our country back" and restore the Constitution of the United States. Their objective being to restore legitimate government in order to protect all ordinary citizens and ensure a civil and cooperative society. Meaning a basically humane and basically peaceful country.

They went to Trump and said ‘we will support you so as to take the system down legally’ (by draining the swamp).

Because, if it is not done legally - if you can't proceed through the legal system by using the courts - the constitution - the civil laws - the next step is that you go to force. That beneath the law - if the law does not work - you get to force and what does force mean? People becoming violent - you are going to have an insurrection - you are going to have a revolution - you are going to have a civil war - So first - let’s endeavour to do this legally, and this is what they have been working at doing ... and that is why Trump is being attacked. First the Russian witch hunt - the Democrats blaming Russia for hacking the voting - which was found to be false -  no Russian collusion or any sort of obstruction of justice by anyone in the Trump campaign.

This was the clear conclusion of the Mueller Report - Trump's campaign was cleared of any wrongdoing. The next accusation was of racism - and that failed - that Trump is against Blacks and Latinos - but those groups have come out and said that they are better off under Trump’s economy. Next comes the Ukraine affair where Trump is accused of strong-arming the Ukrainian President by threatening to withhold military aid to the Ukraine if they do not give up information on Ex Vice President Biden and his son, Hunter, for his business deals with a gas company which has been paying Hunter Biden huge sums of money - essentially for not really doing anything, since he has no background or expertise in that field - and this current part of the attack against Trump has been going nowhere as well.

So what the Professor is saying is that we are seeing the mainstream media becoming more and more desperate in its attacks against the current administration in the United States and that we are at the cusp of, or near on to the outbreak of a civil war there - that we are on that cusp as of today.

Donald Trump was selected because he had the capacity of a very potent narcissist - and would be the only one able to bulldoze down the opposition. 

Tim mentions that after he saw the movie "Eyes Wide Shut" by Stanley Kubrick - who died very soon after he had completed it - that he started connecting the dots. That "Eyes Wide Shut" alerts people to the fact that rich American family members are invited to extravagant and elaborate functions  - and then blackmailed via drugs, sex and videotapes of their participation and activities at such events. Much like the recent scandal of Jeffery Epstein who recently mysteriously died whilst in prison. 

Neo-con wars - on a video posted on youtube and elsewhere, American General Wesley Clark immediately after 911 was told that the US military was to be used to invade Afghanistan - and that:

“We’re going to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off , Iran.”       (3 minutes)

This was a blatant move to control ‘other countries' destinies and essentially destroy them and take whatever resources they might have for the use of the Global Elite.

That the whole Bush family are also part of the ‘establishment’ that Trump has to deal with - and this includes Barack Obama as well.

As this story unfolds we hear:
That Donald Trump is basically an American patriot whose main intention is to restore the Constitutional system in the USA. Ayran's view is that even with Trump succeeding, there may well be a continuation of a system which allows for millionaires and billionaires in the United States, and hence a very unequal society. However, that will be a huge improvement on the truly insane criminal system that exist today. Even the very rich will be reminded by members of their own group that their success and survival depends on a content middle class in a reasonably civil and cooperative society.

See, for instance, Nick Hanauer ...... , a current American billionaire speaking on a youtube video on this issue.

Other snippets from this interview are ...

That Donald Trump is a bull and he is ramming the gate and that he is the first - of possibly several to come ...

911 the False Flag
Ayran mentions that 911 - was the biggest deception on the US people. He calls it The Biggest Elephant in The Room. Top people within certain secret service agencies in the American government and their allies in the private sector planned, managed organised and staged it, in collusion with Saudi Arabia and Israeli intelligence. One of the main reasons behind this was to have the US fight proxy wars on behalf of Israel, especially to contain Iran and subdue it, one way or another. 

Ayran does not go into it but suggests two of the best writers are:  

Christopher Bollyn "Solving 911 - The Deception that Changed the World"            This is a free download 

Rebeckah Roth - a retired US Flight Attendant, now a grandmother, who has written four 4 books as 'novels' to protect her sources, and is even now writing a detailed nonfiction account of exactly what took place in the American aviation sector on Tuesday the 11th of September 2001.

These are written as 'fiction' but she documents exactly what happened that day - using fictional names to protect her sources. She is living ever so quietly today - Ayran is somewhat surprised she is even still alive, given the extent of criminal actions and violence used by the Big Boys to silence opposition when it's deemed necessary. All the various 'false flag' events clearly indicate that. Rebekah's attention was first piqued by the various mobile telephone calls that were supposedly made from the planes, which she knew were not possible from their altitude and would simply not have been placed to their respective recipients. After she had written her first book, entitled "Methodical Illusion", more and more information came to her from various of her connections within the airlines where she was even able to get the passenger list and found that there was not a single Arab on any of those flights.  Mossad, the central Israeli intelligence agency is also mentioned here.

911 led to the invasion of Afghanistan and then the war in Iraq. That has rendered these countries as basket cases.

That then continued under the guise of the ‘Arab Spring’ and the destabilisation of the Arab and North African countries and the Eastern Mediterranean, where war refugees  from these countries descended on Europe. See above video re General Wesley Clark and his two revealing meetings with a Pentagon General. 

This has seen progressive countries like Scandinavia take in immigrants from war ravaged countries that now has Sweden taking far more than it can adequately absorb and it has as a result become known as the rape capital of Europe. Do an internet search.  

This combination of events which Professor von Dreger calls World War Three can now be seen operating on multiple levels, creating chaos and putting people against each other on racial, religious, colour and gender grounds as well as differences of income.

Ayran states a process that has been planned by these crazed control freaks and their allies is to create chaos, divide, split up and create insecurity in the population at large.   

Other Important Information in this interview.   

The Federal Reserve is not a US Government owned Bank. It is a privately owned bank, owned by the global elite - who dictate monetary policy to the American people and Government, in alliance with other central banks in various countries.

 This is a very critical 3 minute video

 Thus if we want to find the heart of the ‘storm’ - Washington is the place to look at - and it is still being fought out legally with courtrooms and lawyers fighting battling it out. Especially with attempts in Congress to impeach the President. 

At present the US marines have been put on alert so as to keep law and order.

The Supreme Court is being highlighted - especially in judging in a ‘constitutional crisis.’ as to how the ‘executive branch’ can act - i.e what the President can do by Executive Order or can not do among many other legal doings   

This also brings up who can be charged on sedition and treason - (listen) and that they could try people like ex CIA John Brennan for treason etc. The same goes for Ex FBI leader James Comey and Ex NSA leader James Clapper, plus many, many others. 

Justice Brett Kavanaugh comes up in the conversation as when he was asked at his Supreme Court confirmations - if the US Military could be used within the country under certain circumstances and what could be the outcome? For example, is the US army entitled to be called up and take over and try people, including American citizens, accused of crimes and then take ‘appropriate’ action.

Dr Steve Pieczenik is also mentioned - saying that certain people in Government are running their own agenda and accruing much debt in the process - and that the US public are paying for it all.           4 minute video

That there are politicians on both the Republican and and Democrat side involved in the current impeachment processes to use whatever means possible in their attempts to take down President Trump. The vast majority of Democrats who are still following Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and many Republicans, including George Bush Senior and George W Bush Junior, Mitt Romney and Mitch McConnell and others of the old guard of the Republican party, are very keen to remove Donald Trump from office. 

The recent arrest of Jeffrey Epstein on charges of human and sex traffic and his involvement in pedophilia rings - especially using threats and blackmail on very highplaced people after flying them to his sex island on the Lolita Express - then his subsequent murder/suicide.This has now been taken off the MSM because it brought too much focus on Bill Clinton who flew there 26 times - plus Prince Andrew and even Hillary Clinton - shows there is a huge coverup by MSM - as it exposes the darkness to ordinary Americans -  of what the elite are hiding.

This is being directly connected to Donald Trump’s signing of the:

Executive Order Blocking the Property of Persons Involved in Serious Human Rights Abuse or Corruption

The recent ‘take down’ of convicted Pedophile Jeffrey Epstein is being linked to this ‘executive order.’ That when all the global pedophiles are eventually taken down - it will also collapse the higher strata of the globalist bankers, and other corporate heads - as they are all inter-linked in a hush hush - mum’s the word, conspiracy of silence.    

 Draining the Swamp

Trump stated he is going to ‘drain the swamp’. The swamp is essentially the in-house matrix that comprises the US government agencies that govern Law and Order - as they are in many ways an arm of the New World Order - in ‘lockstep’ with the US Justice Department that extends into the banking world of Wall Street and then the corporations that basically control commerce throughout the USA and then around the planet. And the Military Industrial complex is totally in there as well. 

Taking in and dealing with this data 

On a personal level Aryan asks us to be civil and polite - that we have to find ways to cooperate and get on together. That we listen to each other, share what is empowering and also what ‘we need to know’

Some links of Interest 

Robert David Steele Former CIA operator and white hat.   A very profoundexposé


Kevin Shipp interview: Former CIA Office, white hat and whistleblower:
By Greg Hunter ex CNN and Good Morning America.

Paul Craig Roberts
Ex Assistant Secretary to the US Treasury - under President Reagan and ex Wall Street Journal deputy Editor   


The New York Times - is the enemy of the people per Donald J Trump


SGT Report 

 Very clear and recent - Harley Schlanger

X22 Report 

There was little time for Ayran to comprehensively cover all the angles in this interview, in just 1 hour.

What is being communicated is that America has been ‘targeted' to lead the planet into the New World Order - where global governance is ‘ordained’ by an ‘elite' at the top of the pyramid.

However, even up until today, the USA has not yet quite become this ’so called’ leader That there are both Democrats and Republicans that want this NWO - has to be acknowledged - however from George Herbert Bush, Bill Clinton, to George W Bush and Barack Obama power has been ‘deftly’ consolidated by fewer and fewer people.(see how few media corporations there are, with now only six major players in the US. That with the media as their voice piece there was going to become eventually a ‘One World Government’, and with the people herded into smart cities where they would be more easily controlled.

This was supposed to be the future that Hillary Clinton was to eventually fulfil, but Donald Trump got in the way. 

However as more people do not believe ‘fake’ news - alterative media is taking its place. Yet, we have to be careful and discern to make sure that the alternative media is not skewing the narrative as well. That in a world where Google is now deftly hiding newsworthy information - through their algorithms - it is more challenging.  

As for Donald Trump. We see him everywhere in the media. He is vilified at every turn, especially by the worlds ‘liberal’ TV media - CNN, ABC NBC,CBS etc including the established digital media and press - globally - all essentially singing from the same song sheet. In so many cases he speaks his mind and goes off script - wading into delicate situations that often defies protocols and says things that do truly astound you. He also has made statements that are also are full on hyperbole and makes untruthful statements as well. All in his mind to fire up his electoral base and to push back whereever he can. 

Yes, he has walked away from the Paris Agreement on Climate change. Saying it has to be renegotiated - whatever that means?

He has stopped the US involvement from signing the - TTPA. Where as NZ did.

He has opened up Alaska to oil drilling. Upsetting all environmentalists! 

Cancelled the Iran Nuclear deal. There is another story around money and cash here.

Engaged in Peace efforts with North Korea. This has to be an excellent move.

Plus shifted the US Embassy to Jerusalem. To a howl of protest.

There are many things that he has done in the last 3 years.

Some say that for him to ‘drain the swamp’ he has to play 5 dimensional chess.

By opening up the Alaskan oil fields - he has temporarily appeased the oil lobby.

By shifting the US Embassy he has temporarily got the Israeli’s on board.

Yet all this time he is slowly rounding on the ‘dark side’ - to take them down.

Today, everyone is awaiting the report of the alleged Obama-era abuses of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court, which has caused a delay in the conclusion of Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz's investigation. This report is about Donald Trump being spied on after he announced his decision to run for the Presidency of the US. If this report finds in Trump’s favour, - this will mean that Comey, Clapper and Brennan are guilty of illegal acts and could face jail. But more so even Barack Obama. 

This whole Trump episode is ongoing - and this coup to get rid of him has yet to be exposed as MSM still has a grip on the American public - but is increasingly diminishing as people see through the fake news that is becoming more and more frenetic.

However, we must remember that he was voted in to find a way to work with Russia and not go to become even more aggressive with it - as Hillary Clinton was pushing for. 

Stay tuned - love him or loath him - some time in the future the truth will come out. Be ready for it.

Oct 17, 2019

It is becoming obvious that there is no recent ‘independent’ research coming out giving 5G technology - a clean bill of health. That undue health effects could arise from increased wireless frequencies have not been allayed. Meanwhile, having a little more time on their hands Grandparents across NZ are showing more interest in this recent technology and they are researching as to what 5G might portend.      

Why have there been no ‘independent’ health tests completed on 5G wireless technologies? That due to the NZ Government not requiring evidence of such tests, many of the NZ public are becoming concerned. Yet, highly qualified independent overseas scientists are saying that this new fifth generation technology ‘ups the frequencies’ markedly. So where is the research for its safety and veracity? In the meantime the elders, the older generation, who over their lifetime of experience and disappointment at the ethics or lack of them within both Government and industry are rallying for the future of their children and grandchildren.  As it is not only a health risk to humans, but also to pets, insects, especially bees as well as vegetation and trees in your garden and neighbourhood. The whole ecosphere could be unduly affected. 

As a result New Zealanders are asking where is the evidence for its safety. 

There are also more doctors than usual speaking out, as we hear in this interview

of Sue Grey a lawyer and specialist in emerging issues and Dr Robin Kelly a General Medical Practitioner who is seeing more patients who are in some way being affected by these emerging technologies.       

So why is it when new technologies are invented and new substances are formulated that in so many cases, there is no Law that states that these have to be independently 

tested and seen to be safe for the public to either use or be safe around.

With the steady increase in telephone frequencies from the 1st, 2nd and 3rd 

generation until the one we have now the 4th - these have been seen to be relatively 

benign - however the game has changed markedly now as 5G breaks through a new 

threshold and this is where the frequencies become more intense. 

Imposed Upon

Sue says 5G is being imposed on us without any explanation being given to the 

public when it is only assumed that it is safe - when the evidence is that it is not safe. Why are we not able to see this evidence published in MSM? Why are they so coy in keeping this information under wraps?

Yet Safe, Fast Fibro-optics is being laid out across the Nation.

That a little over two years ago the Government spent $2 billion for laying out a safe fibre optic cable system that has multiple high speed uses - and now they are imposing upon us 5G with so many unknown influences - that are virtually all not understood - or even known about?

Robin, said when he started as a Doctor he was told that the most important person is the one in front of you. That we should study all the science in the world and then adapt that to the person in front. We are not working for a third party - we are actually working on that one person in front of us.

This also means being an advocate for caution - which comes from the perspective, he had drummed into him early when a student Hippocrates statement that said - first do no harm.’  Which is the cornerstone of primary care practice.

But also to really examine, not only the science - but who is telling us the science  - what is the motive behind those scientists and what is the funding behind those scientists as well?  

Because over the last 20 years numerous senior editors of science journals have been increasingly stating their concerns about ‘conflicts of interest’ as many scientific papers may have big money and other ‘vested’ interests quietly pushing - in the background.   

 As a result, Robin is now very cautious when reading and assessing this information - and in particular the motives for such new medications and drugs and also technologies being ‘rapidly brought to market.’

Electro Hypersensitivity.

He has also seen an increase of people experiencing electro hypersensitivity to many things electrical. For example offices full of computers and linked technologies many of them wireless - so he understand that certain people become stressed or suffer headaches etc.  

Lack of Informed Consent?

Sue also mentions that there is a serious issue about the lack of informed consent

even around trees being felled throughout the neighbourhood to facilitate wireless signals getting through without hindrance. 

Usurping Nature?

Robin - explains that for the modern day human - nature is our healer - walks, rests, 

stress release - is the best form of healing our being. He sees time out in nature as our rehabilitation, but now he says there is a different ‘counter culture’ coming directly across our society, the complete opposite of natural wellness and well being

 that essentially says ‘eliminate nature and instead, live in an electro magnetic virtual reality.’ 

Feeding our Addictions?

Which is essentially saying - let us feed your addictions, plus let’s feed your dependence on technology to such an extent that you are going to do 5G at the expense of your health.

And as a doctor he finds this idea quite disturbing … stating he is not saying no technology, like most of us he likes technology too, but … it has gone out of balance completely. For example nuclear weapons. To the point that it is affecting the health of our young people - and it is influencing younger and younger children. 

Children First 

He says there are many very concerned physicians around the world who are advocates for children first and this is one of the drivers for his advocacy.

Sue says that science appears to be putting robots before people. 

As people we have feelings and needs and we want to be able to choose certain outcomes in our life and not be classified as units of currency - as a convenience for people who want to make money from us. Yet, our whole system seems to be being driven down this path.

That it’s only those with the money who can choose and it doesn’t really matter what 

people want and it is not really surprising that more and more people are experiencing 

mental health and anxiety problems and she says it is really concerning …

Living in an Airport Security Area 24/7   

Tim chimes in saying that airport security systems are an example of intense radiation. 

Note that workers at these stations only are in these concentrated radiation fields for 8 

or so hours a day - but whole cities and towns will be immersed in them 24/7/365 - 

where everyone is saturated in non ionising radiation. This includes insects, birds, pets and vegetation. 

Our Bodies Are Already Under Intense Stress.

That our body systems are already close to tipping points -  all variety of things are loading our immune system. Mental health - of worry, unresolved grief, chemical toxins, emotional toxins … are cause for concern - as our ‘free NZ health’ system is already overloaded.

Accumulating Over Time 

It’s a slow but steady accumulative assault on our immune system and our unique 

human body and the ‘wireless field’ is becoming more extreme and Robin says that when someone tips over through all manner of accruing circumstances - then comes the denial from the status quo - who will say - well it has nothing to do with us … it’s to do with some other problem in their lives …  - however it is to do with all of that - and everything has to be looked at in total. Yet, so many people will be running for cover - as people become more unwell and sick. However - the medical drug industry may actually be there to alleviate whatever ails them - as he says, that once deployed this wireless technology will become a tipping point (into deteriorating health) for many, many people.

The Law Society  wanting to understand ‘causes’ in relation to the Law of the land.

The Law Society Sue says, always looks at causes so as to get a greater understanding of Law. But, with so many inputs that have invisible energies - it is extremely difficult to pin, say a disease to any one particular technology or situation.

In ill health what are the technologies that may have caused your tipping point health collapse? Your cell phone? The cell towers outside your home - or the smart meter outside your bedroom or a number of computers in your office … or a combination of all those things - that coincidentally ties in with your dog dying last week. Or all the different factors that are going on.

And the Law just cannot cope with that at all. 

We need a whole new system of assessing risk - and science too is not very good at assessing risk either. As it was not designed to assess risk. It was designed to helping develop hypothesis’s as to how things worked.

And like the Law, it has it’s limitations - (Nikola Tesla)  “The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence.”

But we are not doing the research!

No Insurance Payouts?

Lloyds of London and the big reinsurers have stated that they will not pay out in the case of health problems as a result of 5G technologies. As the risk is far too big to quantify and assess. This has to be a wake-up call for the community at large. 

Then Sue says if this is the case with the big insurers - why has the Government not  come to this same conclusion?

In NZ because of the ACC law (Accident Compensation Commision) we can not sue our telco phone company - or the company who has a cell phone tower outside our window.  Listen

But ACC doesn’t seem interested in checking this out so as to make sure they are not liable either!

Doctors, who take on this profession in most cases do so because they have an affinity to want to care and endeavour to stop something happening before it happens. 

After studying this for a number of years - Robins is now concerned about the accumulative affects over the years … of increasing radiation. He says 5G will ramp everything up, however prior to 5G coming we are already experiencing damage - when we see the accumulated effects on health

Acting Minister of Health Julie Anne Genter of the Green Party, comes in for not wanting to look at the health effects, especially on children and the unborn etc  - she essentially washes her hands of the subject of 5G as just a new application of radio technology. Listen

Sue says we have to stop now with a ‘moratorium’ until we have proof that it’s safe -  as against rolling out until is is proved harmful.

Sue says we have to stop now with a moratorium until we have proof that it’s safe -  as against rolling out until is is proved harmful

Advisors telling the NZ Ministers - in many ways are controlling the narrative and withholding information - by … omission.

What comes over in this interview is that Government advisers seem to be following an agenda to roll out 5G and not acting in the public interests and protecting fairly the community that they are supposed to be acting for.

Other subjects covered:

In Cypress there is a committee on environment and children’s health   Listen

They are taking wifi away from pre schoolers as well as taking wifi out of children’s hospitals.

Ericsson, the telecom giant’s future vision is a $76 billion dollar industry based on health surveillance  - and everyone in their game will be on tap 24/7/365 - and your data will be accessed continually - every cell will be identified, plus every fright that you get from reading information like this - will register as a racing heart on their computer systems somewhere overseas - even whilst you hide under your bed.

MSM  = Main Stream Media - are now the tech industry - moulding minds with images and flash graphics now being a propaganda arm.

Laws in NZ need to be enacted to put onus on corporations deploying technologies and substances. 

Why is the burden always forced upon the public when new technologies etc are introduced into the environment?  

Why is not the proof of health and safety enforced by law on those deploying new tech and or substances ?

Lets see it is safe until it is proven to be dangerous is a farce … Cigarettes, asbestos, thalidomide, has caused so much harm, yet we the people have failed to vote in people as politicians to safeguard the public interest. 

It is all back to front - putting the burden on the public.  It has to be they who have to prove through an independent authority that their technology  and substances are safe.

The EPA Environmental Protection Authority in NZ have abandoned their post … Why is the Environmental Protection Agency not protecting the environment? - why is the Ministry of Health not protecting our health?

The NZ Health Act 1956. When you search up the function of the Ministry in relationship to public health and this shows you in Section A … ‘the Ministry shall have the function of improving, promoting and protecting public health’.

Why is the NZ Health Department not protecting public Health?’ 

The fact is that we the people have lost control of our Government Agencies. 

Robin says that there is a  lack of unity of head and heart  

Artificial intelligence - is just that - it is  Artificial and we have to recognise it is not real and will not be in our best interests as it does not have a duty of care.

That we have to stand up and say things Now …

What about the younger generation? how are they going to negotiate this technological electronic zone - especially with increasing suicides?

Dr Mary Redmayne in Wellington PhD completed her thesis on youth - intermediate age children and mobile phones.  She was horrified by the amount of exposure they were receiving Listen - re, brain tumours.

Also a recent 5G talk she gave. 

Not covered in this interview is once 5G is established globally there are to be 20,000  geostationary satellites put up in orbit to then beam down to our planet radiation to microwave all sentient life with data - this is so insane that it has to be halted.

We learn that all children born after the year 2,000 are called  ‘digital natives’ - yet what is their future to be? 

Sue - mentions that Midwives could talk to Mums to advise them of the challenges ahead.

This is a very important radio interview for NZers to listen and share ...

Share, share, share and lobby the NZ Government for a Moratorium - thank you.

Nuclear Free New Zealand - Why not 5G FREE New Zealand as well?   - FaceBook:  5G-Free New Zealand  

Oct 10, 2019

Tim opens that he knows mothers who are not allowing their young infants and children to be in the room during TV news. As it’s too violent and overwhelming for young sensitive minds. In today’s world, there is a need for them to play, acquire communication skills and keep their innocence for a little while longer. However Lisa, as a mother of 3 boys, thinks that around 9 years of age they need to understand a little more about what is happening in their world. 

The question then comes up - Where do you source your news from? Especially international news? - (Russia Today) good for what is going on around our planet, but not necessary as to what is happening in Russia. CNN is not necessarily good anymore. Lisa, mentions El Jazeera - has some good things, but we realise it too has its weak points. 

The Guardian - used to be relatively balanced but having a leftish viewpoint - that now having gone into the USA - has become very anti Russian so as to build up it’s US viewership.  Lisa said Guardian let Jullian Assange down badly.

The BBC did not even get a mention.

Lisa, says news today focuses on the head not the heart.

Though the Guardian has relatively good ecology and environmental coverage. We then went free form and covered bees, as being the proverbial canary in the coal mine - being susceptible to 5G wireless radiation and becoming lost and not being able to navigate back to the hive. This being linked as a result of increasing global wifi frequencies. Then there are neonicotinoids (and very possibly glyphosate) that are being used in the industrial, factory farming agriculture sector  

That bees provide so much - including health products as well as pollination for food.  Lisa emphasises that the birds and the bees plus the insect kingdom are going to be the proverbial mass canaries in the coal mine.

Lisa - saving insects due their drop off in numbers is very important - glyphosate yet again but also neonicotinoids  - a chemical that is used to coat the seed with this concoction and the plants grow up with this poison in them. This being deleterious  - now there are basically no insects on our car windscreens … no moths at night on our outside light. Insects are disappearing.

Superphosphate - leaving cadmium in the soil. NZ has a growing problem with too much superphosphate being spread across NZ farmland so as to speed up the growth of grass, but leaving a deadly problem in the ground. - cadmium a heavy metal.

We covered illnesses - and Jodi Brunning’s recent GreenplanetFM interview - where she talked about many diseases and illnesses, bad tummy - intestine problems, skin rashes and lack of sleep - all happening at once as in some sort of convergence - they have named it ‘co-morbidity’.  That these are unknown illnesses and there are increasing links to the agricultural chemicals we have in the food we eat and that are sprayed into our food chain.

Lisa said homeopathics - continues to work for her Tim talked about the British Royal Family and its continued use and success with it for 150 years, especially  in Germany and France. That it is deliberately maligned - but classical Homeopaths still being trained here in NZ.  That we humans are wave-forms - and so are homeopathic solutions.

By 1948 the Rockefeller/Morgan Financial empires had already invested $800 million to manipulate pubic education in matters of health and pharmacology. Note; JD Rockefeller and his recently deceased 104 year old son David only relied on homeopaths to maintain their personal health. Ref. Heidelberg University Clinic Department of Psychosomatic Medicine Chief Consultants (Prof. Mitserlich and Dr Ruffler) opinion on Bruno Groning (24.10.51) BG-A 18 .

Neutrinos - instantly passing through all 7.7 billion of us.

Tim emphasised that there are trillions of invisible neutrinos zipping through us right at this moment, just under the speed of light. The come from our sun and all stars - passing straight through our planet and out the other side in less than nano-seconds. That nothing is solid - our body is in many ways a cellular hologram.

What do we do for our Great Sustainer?

Children are being brought up - to think that food comes from the supermarket - not really being taught how all of our food chain comes from nature - that we now have a sanitised media - sales are more important that growing your own healthy organic produce. (we acknowledge that not everyone has land on which to grow food).

Indigenous Connection

Lisa talks about indigenous peoples connection to nature and the source from where we spring. They know exactly where their food comes from.

Especially Maori and their connection - and their whakapapa - their umbilical cord linkage - following it back from their mother - through their ancestral lineage going all the way back to the 7 canoes (waka) that brought them to Aotearoa NZ from across the Pacific, supposedly around the 1400’s. They intuitively, sense and understand ‘connection’. Including to Mother earth - Papatuanku.

Where are today’s leaders in relationship to the future of children?

Tim asked about - where are the leaders of the world who are prepared to talk about the future of children?  In particular his asking, ‘why can they not factor children into all future legislation?’

Lisa - because of short term thinking and what is going to make them popular for the next election - only for 3 year terms (NZ)  She talks about that humans for some unknown reason do not ‘feel’ the future. Listen  Brain does not get it but the heart does.

What are we leaving for the future to sort out?

Greta Thunberg and the children of tomorrow.

David Suzuki’s daughter in 1992 - never got the media attention way back then at the 1992 Rio Conference - where her addressing the UN was equally poignant, how did it take so long?

We wish Greta had mentioned the fossil fuel use - that the US military are the record user of fossil fuel. 

But what about the $trillions being spent on the worlds military? - we could solve so many if not all of our ecological problems by diverting military spending into environmental action.

And if Greta could have also mentioned Fukushima in Japan - that is belching nuclear radiation into the Pacific - our local ocean.

(However as a young girl on the global stage it is a momentous task to be able to stand up in a public venue and talk from the heart.  Question to you dear reader, could you stand up and without notes talk to 2000 people plus?)

That there is plastic garbage in the ocean and that there are many other ecological challenges that are outside, climate change. 

Lisa, mentions that the status quo have got too much focus on money to want to move on climate change.

Other non polluting energy systems that have been silenced.

Tim - talks to other means - free energy devices that both Foster Gamble in the trailer to the - tells - that the tech is here. Dr Steven Greer agrees - however this information is being silenced by big money, the fossil fuel and nuclear power lobbies and over arching vested interests. 

Its called censorship by omission.’ 

Tim - that we could also work towards research into little black boxes that could possibly capture neutrinos passing through our planet and that as these neutrinos are now known to have mass - they may be very much like solar energy coming from the sun - hitting a highly refined ‘plate surface’ within the little black box that then catalizers an energy transfer into electricity.  But this concept too is not in the public consciousness, yet needs to be.

Being sanitised by MSM - and sanitised from academia and not let out in the public domain.

Lisa says that new ideas that do come out - will end up being taken over by a large energy combine, who will buy the inventor out with many millions and then that corporation will sit on this tech break-through - having no intention what so-ever of taking this new revolutionary concept to the market - or giving clean energy to the human race.

Serious Global use of Microwave Technology 

Lisa talks about microwave tech that is being used right up to this moment - HAARP technologies being mentioned and then microwave weather wars and how Mozambique was affected by a large tropical cyclone - a weather incident that culminated in yet another huge tropical storm that completely flooded a whole area where coincidentally oil had just been discovered. Resulting in the local inhabitants being forced to flee the area and then the oil corporation moved in. Lisa says is there a link? She also says people have to start talking about this - and doing one’s our own research. However note that Google in the last 3 years have been, changing their algorithms to hide information from their search engines and essentially censor anyone wanting to find out what is truly going on. This is a very serious matter for all activists but also mums and dads wanting to obtain more information so as to advise their children in the best possible manner as to what is happening and what we can do to change the narrative for the better.

Back to the News!

Tims asks the question; who is the person who chooses everyday what is to be on the news? What is the criteria from which they make their choice?  

Radio NZ was mentioned as having some good news (but I Tim, find it too conservative for myself).

Tim talked of young children unsupervised on the web - very dangerous and very seductive - keep them away from the dark web.

Trolling and blogs that are 60% true and 40% distortion …

Lisa says she uses her intuition with regard to a lot of information that she sees now on the web. As a woman she says what else can she fall back on, but to use her sense of intuition to divine the truth.

Q and the Qanon phenomenon comes up - and who is Q or they?

Are they are right wing conspiracy theory - even if they say that the Rothschilds are at the top of the heap - and that Israel is to be left to last - that Obama and the Clintons are going to face extremely serious charges in the coming future.

That Jeffrey Epstein being a Mossad agent was used to compromise people and leaders in high places and blackmail them so as to have them do what their new masters deem as necessary?

The fact that Greta Thunberg has hit the headlines has also wiped Epstein and his nefarious activities out of the news and the global narrative, has been noted - as well as taking 5G out of the public discourse too, is also noted. 

Censorship by Omission?

Donald J Trump and his Executive Order EO 13818 signed on the 21st December 2017.  Is it connected to Epstein being arrested and  jailed - being the first of many involved in people trafficking and pedophilia?

Blocking the Property of Persons Involved in Serious Human Rights Abuse or Corruption

To the many following this Executive Order they state that this is Trumps greatest initiative - the take down of human trafficking - that goes all the way up to the top of global (sex) trafficking and all the darkness that goes with it.  This is what the Epstein case was - just the top of iceberg - and he got eliminated - by who we do not know? - But Epstein has been linked as a front of the Mossad. If you saw Stanley Kubrick’s Eyes Wide Shut - you see how sex and blackmail closed down all the rich families to what is going on at the top of the upper strata of the West.  Who knows what is happening elsewhere? The Catholic Church and Cardinal George Pell being sentenced to jail - was this just ‘near’ the top of the iceberg too? 

5G - the Nuclear Free Moment for NZ? 

5G Vodafone and their 1400 towers. Lisa says people power needs to block the putting up of the towers as per her information of what was happening in the Coromandel. That these tower deployments need no authority to put up. They can be put up anywhere the teleco’s want with no public input - whatsoever. That means right outside your home dramatically dropping the value of your house.

Telecommunications corporations are now the largest corporate entities on the planet.

Lisa thinks that the Government will not do anything about 5G -  they are tied into the Agenda - so yet again it is:

Grassroots action for us all.

Notice how few letters to the editor questioning 5G get published in the NZ Herald? Yet, there is a gathering ground swell - nation wide.

Call to Action

October the 23rd October near Smales Farm Takapuna on - Vodafone Placard demo - staff have been told that it is nothing to be of concern - just an upgrade to 4G.

Stop 5G Placard Protest.

Where - Vodafone.

74 Taharoto Rd Takapuna


When – Wednesday October 23rd

From -  11.30am - 2pm.

Parking may be difficult

Buses to Smales Farm + two minute walk

Bring – placards opposing 5G

Get creative!

Hope to see you all there and please share.

The World Media always wanting to frighten us.

Nuclear war coming up in the narrative between Pakistan & India - there is so much turmoil being fermented as of now. 

Tim talked about how he was loosely affiliated in the early 1980’s with Beyond War a group in Palo Alto in California, USA.

The Beyond War Award[9] was created in 1983 and ran for eight years (1983-1990) to honor the great efforts of humankind as it moves to build a world beyond war. The award attracted national and international attention through the nominating and selection process.

  • Second Beyond War Award Ceremony 1984. The International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War received the second Beyond War Award. It was presented to the co-founders, Dr. Bernard Lown of the US and Dr. Yevgeni Chazov of the USSR, simultaneously through the use of a live satellite teleconference link or "spacebridge" between Moscow and San Francisco. This historic event was viewed live by over 75,000 people. Over 100 million Soviets subsequently saw the televised videotape. (Free Video at
  • Third Beyond War Award Ceremony 1985. The Beyond War Foundation presented its award to six world leaders, President Miguel de la Madrid in Mexico, President Raul Alfonsin of Argentina, Prime Minister Olof Palme in Sweden, First President Julius Nyerere (now retired) in Tanzania, Prime Minister Andreas Papandreou in Greece and Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi in India, each in his respective country, at the same time on two-way television so they
    could all see and hear each other, and so the world could look on.[10] 

What World Leader stands out today?

The big countries with Nuclear weapons won’t budge on their weapons. 

Israel - has them in secret and ignores all calls to be more transparent. 

The Atomic Energy commission are sent into Iran and North Korea - but not Israel 

Survival Movement NZ on facebook  

Food secure and resilience - listen to Lisa explain what is happening on this facebook forum

 Alternative News   Roberts David Steele ex CIA  interviewed by an Australian who gets a good number of dark questions answered.

Oct 2, 2019

This interview quickly takes us on her journey of immersion into nature - one that has inspired her curiosity to want to embed the natural world in how she ‘felt’ - existence. She has a sense that ‘everything is connected.’

This has expanded greatly since coming to New Zealand, and learning how much the Maori language, embraces the natural world and that the word Kaitiakitanga - means guardianship and protection.

Her first understanding came to her as a child, walking and observing the bush/nature near her home in Australia. Then as an adult making a difference to her community, she started to glean how ‘as in community - as in nature’. She saw that we can’t disregard any of our spheres or scapes, especially our soundscapes. To do so is to ignore a fundamental part of our connection with our nature. We need diversity for harmony and health.  

So as a scientist and an agronomist lecturing in biology and its interconnections, she immersed her deeper self into nature the natural order and the web of all life. Here she found out about our inter relationship with the earth, and also the mineral kingdom and in fact - with all biota. That the vegetable and animal kingdoms were more than a symphony of living form, texture and pattern. But more - that everything is harmonically coupled to the natural ecology, and that within the biosphere there is an added frequency of sound that can both enlighten, heal and inspire. This is where Fiona is putting her focus today.

Becoming Educated

Fiona’s original training is scientific, having completed both a Bachelor of Agricultural Science at Adelaide University in 1986 and a Post Graduate Diploma of Agriculture at the University of Queensland in 1988.  She has worked as an agronomist, lectured in Biology, Botany and Environmental Science and worked for the Department of Conservation in Australia as an education officer. 

However, the more I delved into this interview the more I enjoyed what Fiona was conveying - as she migrated from her scientific self over to her artistic understanding of showing that in nature, everything is connected. The web of life is integral to our survival as a species. 

Originally from South Australia she as a child spent a good deal of her time connecting with the bush and biota of the hills that surrounded the city of Adelaide. That later in life, when she studied the soil and botany she realised that diversity was so important to retain the nuance and balance of nature.

The effects of ‘Development.’ 

She says that when man, takes out big chunks of the ecosystems - by broad spectrum spraying or even clear felling of trees or planting monoculture crops - we are taking a big slice of life and area - out of the natural system. However, to mitigate this later on - can become fraught with challenges. So to minimise this from the very beginning, would be a very good forward thinking strategy.

With large cities especially in summer in Australia, like Melbourne and Sydney they become ‘heat islands’ but when we go away out to the bush and get under the canopy of leaves  - we feel the instant coolness - hence we have to have trees in all cities … essentially greenbelts.

Fiona mentions that nature in the cities is very much seen as ‘lip service.’ 

Relationships - nature and community. 

Now living in Whangarei, in Northern NZ - she has been teaching - but she comes back to - ‘relationships’ and who we are as a community and how our natural world functions.

She belongs to the organisation - Child Friendly Cities as part of her work in Whangarei -  that if we can design a city that is safe and there are places for children to play and they get to experience nature - then that city will be healthy for everybody.

Connection and Purpose

If you are connected to something bigger than yourself and you have a purpose and you can aspire to something that brings you forth into the future - then life becomes kind of cool - because of the sense of belonging …


Working and Teaching With The Less Fortunate 

Today, In Whangarei there is a wonderful experiment of working with people who have in many ways missed out on belonging in an extended family - sort of way - and that through playing music and being part of an orchestra - so to speak - they see themselves as part of a movement that opens them up to joint harmonies and a sense of belonging. It is validating everyone for the part that they are playing in working in unison for the betterment of the whole.  Listen …

Fiona also integrates Natural Philosophy into her learning modality and that of Viktor Schauberger - known as the father of ‘water dynamics.’ Where the sound of trickling or running water can create a soothing natural ambience that allows people to relax into a realm where industrial sounds are left behind.


Fiona has cheerfully integrated the indigenous knowing of NZ Maori of Aotearoa. She also talks warmly about Maori and Māori tikanga (the Māori way of doing things) as in learning the language (te Reo) she is continually immersing herself into a very profound knowingness and connection that is also very holistic as well. She sees herself as being very privileged to participate and learn and receive a Diploma in Maori and see and experience this cultural gift in action. Be it in waiata (song) and poi dance, (synchronised use in each hand of a small ball on a string, - whilst singing) and weaving and carving.

She finds that Maori cosmology - lore and their very holistic understanding of their connectivity to Mother Earth - Papatuanku, has really opened up her world. Especially coming from a university education with its reductionist and mechanistic viewpoint of lifeless and dead matter.

That around our planet she said there are so many indigenous earth based cultures who have not only a grounded understanding of nature - but intuitively that can align with the ebb and flow of the homeostatic life force that is embedded within nature.

She says we have to make the effort by embracing and recognising and listening … to what nature is telling us. Especially Te Reo Maori (learning the Maori language) that since coming to NZ she truly finds how amazing the language is - that so much of Te Reo is premised on the living earth and Papatuanuku.

She endorses teaching Te Reo Maori in schools because it has such a profound connection with nature and the world at large - like Kaitiaki tanga. (Guardianship).

Fiona posits the idea that when we learn the Maori language - that as an oral language - it has another quality she finds lacking in English in that it goes beyond function as the English tends to do - and carries with it - and speaks to the heart - as well as function.

With Kaitiaki - it speaks to the being-ness of something - that English just cannot quite grasp.

She said that since coming to NZ she has grown more personally - that NZ because it is a verdant country, with more rainfall too - it can offer this quality, when you abide by natures ways.

That this growth via learning from the Maori language and of their cosmology of a living planet and the sacredness of nature - lifts her spiritually. That as a scientist she identifies with it wholeheartedly - especially in shifting from old thought patterns and family patterns and transforming her being and who she is in the world - especially in supporting her family and moving into the next generation.

Connection with the Giant Kauri Trees.

Kauri - wananga.(Learning)  Waipoua Forest Northland. The iwi - Te ara-ra, are ‘kaitiaki’ of the forest - that the Kauri tree, is also linked closely to the Maori creation story.  She encourages people to visit but first research Kauri before they even go to the forest ….

She talks about Maori Myth and why Kauri in some ways turns upside down the creative story.

Also the problem of Western society - medicine in using sanitisation to obliterate all germs and with that the good bacteria too. That as a society we are blanket killing so many single cellular bacteria - that it is all coming back to bite us solely because Western medicine is unable to understand the web of life, as above, so below. That the soil is a mass of micro-organisms of mega trillions - yet we ignore their benevolence at our peril.

She talks about being with children - that all we have to do is be who we are - not like someone else.  That in her learning about connectivity and collaborating and cooperating in a ‘wananga’ and an open classroom environment - wonders can happen.

Other Topics Covered 

Spending time deep within healthy old growth forest - how does it feel to immerse yourself in there among these ancient trees and the stillness ?    

What are the health effects when living beside a main highway - with car and truck sounds causing desensitisation and increasing stress levels …

Industrial society is programming us to tune out, become more desensitised and not allowing open doors and windows to let the wafting fragrances of flowers or bird song to enter. 

We as a society have to make sure that we have ‘rights’ to live inside a healthy soundscape, where peace can prevail allowing us to heal our being. 

She makes the statement: It’s not how do things look - but instead - how does it sound?

Maori have a way to learn from each other, its called: 

Tuakana teina where trained siblings teach younger siblings.

Older brother - teachers younger brother, older sister younger sister going on - or even sister - brother - called a scaffolding system of support. 

Other subjects covered.

Artists - what they bring, is they are a bridge from the unseen to the seen and the physical world. We need to encourage them.

Home schooling came in as a plus …. 

These was much more in this interview and I sincerely suggest that you have a listen to Fiona, who is someone entirely devoted to teaching and have children learn that we are all part of a greater community.

Sep 26, 2019

Peter can work out a person’s main character traits, tell if they will be re-elected, all from birth numbers that cannot be changed, and through using numbers associated with a name.

Numerology is seen as a universal language of numbers. These numbers can then be used to help us to better understand the world and ourselves as individuals.

Peter Vaughn is a numerologist and also a mayoral candidate for Auckland.

He explains how numerology works and gives some examples about what one can find out through numbers.

Numerology has its history way before the Greek philosopher Pythagoras. Pythagoras taught that number was the essence of all things. He spoke of cycles and patterns and waves of energy that existed long before the dawn of humanity, and how our life paths reflect great and eternal laws, whose origins and purpose remain hidden within the mysteries of existence.

Numerology can calculate life paths and highlight difficulties and good times. 

We discuss some of Peter’s interesting numerological discoveries around suicide, and education.

Just imagine if we could use numerology to anticipate and reverse suicidal tendencies.

Peter Vaughan was raised in West Auckland, and although he has lived outside Auckland on occasion, he has always come back to the city he grew up in and loves. 

Peter and his wife Carolyn have 7 children between them, and a number of grandchildren. This has reinforced Peter's strong connection to Auckland, and means he has a vested interest in it being the best it can be, now, and into the future. 

Peter has an interesting and varied background, having been a soldier in the territorials, worked as an Electrician on large scale commercial and industrial projects, and studied Soil Science. He has also studied people extensively, and acted as an advisor to large corporates, helping them to choose the right people for the right roles through expert profiling techniques he has developed. This means Peter has a vast knowledge of the commercial environment, and is a solutions-based thinker. He will bring to the table solutions regarding the future of Auckland Super City including remedial action to address the recent Auckland City Council press release on the Climate Crisis. We have the technology and we must act now to make corrections and steer away from the causes of such life-threatening matters. 

Peter has seen what is going wrong with Auckland, and has new and innovative ideas to get Auckland moving. 

From his wealth of experience Peter recognises the financial waste politicians create, he will treat spending other people’s money with the respect it deserves. It is time to use Aucklanders hard earned rates money, wisely and look at cutting costs while delivering the services our city needs to flourish. 

A Newly Led Council with You in Mind - Peter Vaughan’s manifestos 

  • Push for FREE, modern, public transport 
  • Remove cycle-ways from encroaching on city roads; modify to multiuse foot & cycle traffic 
  • Only engage in upgrading/widening roads if needed to improve traffic flows 
  • No light Rail. Halt costly heavy rail. Support mono track and rubber wheel train technology 
  • Support local businesses as they are BIG producers and employ most of the people 
  • Build high-rise car parks alongside bus and rail stations (park n ride) 
  • Reduce the number of Council employees 
  • Move the Building Consents process to the private sector 
  • Address so called climate crisis claims. Stop landfills and dumping rubbish into the sea 
  • Eradicate pollution - build rubbish-fuelled furnaces that generate power for Auckland 
  • Increase clean water stocks to Auckland by 256,000 tonnes per day from the Waste to Power Plants 
  • Work toward FREE rubbish collection as your rubbish becomes fuel for the power plants 
  • STOP 5G ! Ensure all Aucklanders have access to SAFE in-house higher-speed fibre 
  • Halt all 1080 drops in the Auckland region! Gain NZ support 
  • Push for a rates freeze by offsetting the income from power and water production by Waste to Power Plants 
  • Introduce new Education system concept. Students are unique, the present system is failing our children. 

For more information on Peter’s candidacy, go to his website:

Sep 5, 2019

Alan, a hunting and fishing guide has been an outdoorsman all of his life. However over the last 50 years he has witnessed such a vast change in both the NZ way of life as well as the rapid decline in our once relatively pristine ecology and environment, that he has had to act.

That the only course of action to halt this decline was for him as an ‘out doors man’ - was to finally be impelled to start a political party to exact positive change.  

Hence the birth of the

Please Note this interview mentions: DOC = the Department of Conservation -  MPI = the Ministry of Primary Industries and - ‘Winston’ = the leader of the NZ Party, which in the last election - 'held the balance of power' and that he was able to forge an Alliance with the Labour Party and the Green Party which enabled Jacinda Ardern to become the Prime Minister of NZ.

In this interview you will hear the timbre of Alan’s voice as he warmly articulates his love for our nation, our warm national character, our countryside and the magnificence of our scenery. However he also voices his disappointment of the Governmental agencies tasked to take care of our cherished environment and do the right thing for the future of generations to come. This interview was very enjoyable from the standpoint that Alan talked about a duty of care - that I as the interviewer became far to involved and talked far too much - when I needed to just ask questions - so I wish to apologise to Alan and listeners - for too much talk time.

The essence of this interview is on this web page and basically says it all.    

Walking and climbing many areas in the hills, ranges and mountains of NZ and specialising in being both a fishing and hunting guide. Alan has a very intimate relationship with the land and nature. This is where he has been able to dwell and think-through what needs to be done to restore our environment and bring through the old New Zealand values of yesteryear.


Healthy land, clean water, rivers and lakes and seashores

Regenerate fish in both inland waterways and along our coasts.

Speaking for hunters and fishermen and all activities of the great  outdoors.

Low impact, high value agricultural production.

No more trawling of our coastal fisheries.

Establish environmental limits to economic growth

Focus on quality, not quantity in everything we do.

A society where health, happiness and compassion are our measures for success.

Major Platforms  

A moratorium on 5G Technologies. 

Halt aerial toxins of 1080, clean up the rapid decline of our inshore fisheries, and the importance to clean up our streams, rivers and lakes. Including hunting, land use in the public interest.

That all of these back into a healthy environment and ecology which equates to land, forests, and backcountry areas. Hence the name ‘Outdoors Party.’ 

Also realising that many people leave the cities on weekends and holidays to spend much needed time in the great outdoors.


Dairy Farming 

Alan mentions that the dairy farming industry, which is the backbone to NZ’s economy has to be challenged - especially on the Canterbury Plains where the irrigation sucks so much water out of the rivers and cows waste leaches so easily back down through the fragile soil - that contamination is escalating beyond the ability to control. He states that the industry has to take responsibility for it actions as it is majorly undermining our land and waterways as well as our future. 

Dirty Dairying Exposed in the New York Times

Fish & Salmon Farming

Salmon farming in NZ - is the cause of a huge amount of issues - from feeding low quality food to salmon, use of antibiotics, to the fish becoming diseased and that below the enclosure - high amounts of pollution that looks like a desolate lifeless wasteland.

Commercial fishing is taking from the NZ ‘Commons’ - which belongs to the NZ People - 'We the people own this resource’ - however it has been essentially taken over by an exceptionally small number of players. This is resulting in a huge waste of other species of fish, caught as ‘by-catch’ that are injured and returned to the water - but many end up dying - floating on the surface to eventually sink to the bottom of the sea.  See further down this posting. 

Hear about how the 'Recreational Fishing Reserves' that the National Party promised for the people, that were never taken up and followed through when they were in power. That there was no intention of this being actioned - and the National politicians breaking promises - year after year. 


The word kaitiaki in Maori is mentioned by Alan - a very good word Kaitiaki is a New Zealand Māori term used for the concept of guardianship, for the sky, the sea, and the land. A kaitiaki is a guardian, and the process and practices of protecting and looking after the environment are referred to as kaitiakitanga. 

It needs to be adhered to. 

Aerial Toxins - 1080 poison.

Halting the aerial toxin 1080 being dropped by helicopter over large areas of the country which causes huge collateral damage to other animal species eating and taking in this poison and dying horrendous painful deaths.

He talks about the spin doctors from the Department of Conservation and the Green Party saying that they are totally accepting of this poison as the only option we have in this country. Yet, there are a number of small regions where the locals have used trapping and ‘targeted’ other poisons and they are highly successful - because with 1080, vast numbers of birds are dying - such as the native kea.

SPCA - has come out against 1080.  But the Forest and Bird Society of all organisations, are so pro 1080 that they will not engage in finding other alternatives - other than continue supporting of ‘carpet bombing’ the bush and dropping tonne’s of poison green pellets where it gets into bush covered ravines and waterways -  as they have no control of it - and as the poison pellets are made of cereal, birds are drawn to it.

Listen to Alan talk about 1080 - he will give you a graphic understanding by a witness who has seen deer that have eaten and taken in this poison and of the long horrific, agonising, torturous death these poisoned animals undergo that in Alan’s words is - unspeakable.  Also talked to, was that 1080 is an extremely emotional issue - that has ferocious arguments coming from both sides of the ‘debate’ - because this issue is fervently being fought to actually save our fauna - however the process is so vociferous that after the 1080 argument dies down - the opposite actually takes place - silence and quietness throughout the entire area of the bush where 1080 is dropped. 


With the coming planned roll out of 5G technology across NZ - the Outdoors Party ‘is out there alone’ in comparison to all the other main political parties. They are calling for a ‘moratorium’ on the deployment of this technology. Especially as there has been no independent health studies that have been peer reviewed by independent scientists and doctors free from industry ties. At the time of this interview all the other main political parties have shown no interest in the health effects that this technology can/may cause. They are all pro 5G. Even though there are rapidly increasing numbers of very courageous scientists and doctors who are prepared to call out the industry for not doing ‘due diligence’ on the intensity of the frequencies that will be saturating all areas. This includes the rapid escalation of transmitting tower numbers being ubiquitous along all streets and neighbourhoods everywhere - many nest door to homes of families, schools and children’s preschools. 

Who benefits from this tech?  Alan says, 4G is quite ok for most of us. To take action people in NZ are talking about switching phone companies - Vodafone is going to be the first to deploy 5G across the country and so many Vodafone customers are changing to '2 Degrees’ - as they say their company is not going to 5G. This is one way to boycott the big guys. People are starting to organise in local groups across NZ and they are happening as this is being read. Sue Grey also belongs to the 'outdoors party' and was interviewed 3 weeks ago with much more info here.      

NZ Coastal Fisheries being the 4th largest in area on earth.

Alan talks about these fisheries needing to being in the care for all NZers. Called the “commons.’ That they belong to the people of this country, and have to be managed for the people and our collective future. However large commercial interests have claimed 94% of the fishery and are taking huge numbers out fish of the sea, and virtually dumping these fish at low prices overseas. (Not adding value.) 

So the perennial problem of the commercial sector is the continued netting of ‘by-catch’ - not the targeted fish that they have been given quota’s for - and then when caught - are dumped - most die due to being out of the water too long or are injured in this process. 

The name Scott Macindoe comes up as a revered and highly acknowledged spokesman on behalf of the recreational fisherfolk of NZ and the challenges faced by them, especially against the commercial fishing juggernaut wanting to exert their need for more areas in which to fish. (listen). 

Alan also wants NZ as a nation to focus on organics (not GE or GMO’s).  

That we focus on value adding to all our exports as a huge number of logged trees are being exported from NZ without any ‘value adding’ to them. That we are selling them just as logs and we could sell them as sawn up and dressed timber or even more innovative products.

That we place an organic emphasis especially around health and that healthy food and food growing be taught to children in schools throughout NZ.  

Legislation and the 1956 NZ Health Act.

The Act says it is for - improving, promoting and protecting public health.

What does it mean 'protecting public health?’

In promoting a healthy lifestyle for NZers, Alan states that when we take ourselves out doors into nature it can heal us in so many ways, especially from todays onset of stress and depression.  

We also hear that being affiliated and going outdoors is spiritually good for all people, especially young people - with the result of far less health problems. 

In this interview Alan shows his commitment to NZ’s fauna and fauna and what he and the Outdoors Party are undertaking for the good of the country. That is to exact change by going to Parliament to follow through on what their website manifesto states. 

This is especially relevant to DOC whom he states - 'have lost their way.' 

Alan Simmons

Aug 29, 2019

Having a Masters degree in physics he was influenced by his father’s books on the Rosicrucians that then took him into yoga and also to becoming a musician and experimenting with sound and understanding what constitutes sound, that some of the great masters brought through, as with Mozart. 

When invited to work with Geoffrey Hodgson, originally from England, one of the most respected clairvoyants of the 20th century, Murray’s insight and understanding of the energies and frequencies that pervade and saturate the universe - took him deeply into the unseen world of Geoffrey Hodson. That - beyond the ‘filmiest of screens’* are other agencies of a higher order - devic beings - some call them landscape angels - that have in essence been over lighting evolution since life emerged onto our planet.

Healthy Skepticism and not Dogmatic Scepticism

Murray also talks about skepticism and what is healthy skepticism and not dogmatic scepticism - which like religions - especially Christianity it was very dogmatic until recently - that there is now a merger of science and religion. But that science too has now become so skeptical that it too follows the traits of becoming exceptionally dogmatic.  Meaning, if you cannot see it and measure it, is not definitely not there.

Albert Einstein, who Murray mentions had mystical understandings was classified as a pantheist by the British Pantheist Society according to Tim’s communications with them back in 1996. That when NZ’s Lord Rutherford split the atom, Einstein said - that “Rutherford was the first person to tunnel into God.” 

Also mentioned in this interview was Nikola Tesla’s statement  “The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence.”  

Well, as we know - our universities are overburdened with subject matter as it is, thus science has made no real effort as things that are invisible, are also very difficult to commercialise. 

Reductionist and Mechanistic Science

Murray talks about science today following a reductionist mechanical model - that by breaking down everything to its constituent parts to finally after cells we have atoms and subatomic particles. They say in the dissecting of an animal - it just works as a machine - and thus every living creature is seen as a machine. That this is actually valid - our bodies do act as machines - however the human body has been said for thousands of years, as always having a soul - or a spiritual essence.

The ancient Greeks from whom much of our scientific and biological language derive from, talk of ‘psyche’ as in psychology and psychiatrist - it means ‘soul’ - yet 90% of doctors may not believe in a soul, because they do not cover this or mention it, in their many years of medical school from 7 years to 13 years.       

World Soul is Mentioned 

The world soul (Greek: ψυχὴ κόσμου psuchè kósmou, Latin: anima mundi) is, according to several systems of thought, an intrinsic connection between all living things on the planet, which relates to the world in much the same way as the soul is connected to the human body. Plato adhered to this idea, so did Pythagoras.

However, back in 1957 in the then Soviet Union, Psychic Discoveries Behind the Iron Curtain was published in America  by Lynn Schroeder and Sheila Ostrander - this book really opened the eyes of the West - that not only were the Soviets studying psychokinesis they were researching telepathy and many other taboo subjects too.

However, unknown to most, the American’s were also working on some of these hidden ‘occult’ subjects as well. Harold Puthoff and Russell Targ of the Stanford Research Institute in California - were looking at ‘Remote Viewing’ and other scientific ways to access the hidden.

Murray mentions Charles Leadbeater who was a clairvoyant who was able to, in a deep meditative state - zero down and look into the heart of the atom. ThIs is a phenomenon that is outside of scientific man’s imagination. This is where Leadbeater was able to painstakingly count the number of protons in the nucleus of different atoms.  

This momentous work on describing the structure of atoms - working through the periodic table to describe how many protons certain atoms had. This is very important - because he discovered the exact number of isotopes that were not know at the time, but subsequently we have now identified isotopes that now fill exactly those slots.   Though this information too has not come out to the general public, due to MSM not wanting to delve into such data.

Murray’s ranging interview then covered his time with Geoffrey Hodson

Here he talked about his experiments he did with sound and colour as like the book - 'Music Forms’ - tells of how clairvoyants see the profusion of colour when certain music is played, in this instance the ‘hallelujah chorus’  (listen)

Devas or Landscape Angels

The interview went on to cover the great energies of ‘devas' that over lighted mountain tops (as well as in certain cases natural power points on the planetary energy grid.  The books, ‘Kingdom of the Gods’ and ‘Clairvoyant Investigations’ - the latter writing, with drawings of the great beings or landscape angels that are present in NZ, over Rangitoto Island, and Ngāuruhoe, immediately behind Tongariro.  etc (Listen)

It was also Geoffrey Hodson who introduced vegetarianism to NZ in 1943, because as a seer, he witnessed the dark clouds or thought forms that hung over abattoir’s and especially one giant one he saw over the huge abattoir in Chicago.

This was a very enjoyable interview with Murray. It is a realm that I have a keen interest in too. There is also a follow up - coming ...

Aug 22, 2019

Groups of people are organising across the country to have the discussion that the Teleco's are not prepared to have. 

This is especially to do with health. 

Recently groups have sprung up in Albany, Waiheke Island, Mangawhai, Torbay, West Auckland - Coromandel, Tauranga, Wanganui, Wellington, Nelson, and the Golden Bay/Takaka area so there is a grassroots movement spreading like mushrooms - because inherently there is a distrust of corporates, world wide as well as a reticence to believe in what our Governments are saying and not necessarily doing.

The Controversy.

Sue originally was involved in researching 4G telephone wireless networks and that there was wifi very near to schools. Also, that telephone towers were placed close to play centres - like in one case 5 metres away and that the 'standards for this technology are written by the ‘corporates' who produce this technology. She also researched how the standards are enforced - about the NZ Government Advisory Committee and that if you are concerned about the harm - you are not allowed on the Government Advisory Committee.

5G Technology

5G radio waves are very short but very intense radio waves - and there is yet, not enough health data to support the safety of this technology.

There is also the deployment of telephone towers dispersed at around 100 meters distance from each other - especially in major built up areas like the inner city - but also across the suburbs and residential areas. Where our children spend most of their lives, including biota - pets, cats and dogs as well as flora - trees and shrubs.

But, we as a community have not been asked if we agree to having the close proximity of these towers to our homes. What Sue questions is, where is the public dialogue around this, when did the Teleco's engage us to ask us for our permission?

It's like Spark and Vodafone and the NZ Government are all ready to roll this technology out and we the community are still waiting to have the conversation as to its safety. Where is the engagement with the localised community?

The ‘Precautionary Principle’ 

Scientific Experts who are 'independent' who are not profiting from this 5G tech are realising that there are some serious deficiencies in the actual technology that is being ‘sold’ to us - as well as the process as to how we should approach this ‘new’ technology. 

The ‘Precautionary Principle’ is not being adhered to - in the rush to get this technology out into the marketplace.

Why the Hyped Up Rush to Roll 5G Out?

As of this moment - if 5G was not rolled out for another year or two - how many people would it really affect? Would it affect you and your family? Would the world come to an end? Lets dwell on this, if we waited another year or two to really get clarity to its safety, would this not be prudent? Especially as we already see so many children suffering from health effects, that doctors can not diagnose as to what is the source. 

Should we not also add to this a question around the decline in bee numbers? (The canaries in the coal mine?)

Sales over Civilisation?

The hype that big business is salivating over is driverless cars - well take one look at the coagulated motorways into and out of Auckland at rush hour every day - what's the urgency of a driverless car or wanting to download a movie or a video game into our smart phone in 10 seconds ...?

Really, is this where the narrative is going - that ‘we have to have it now’ and get it ‘whilst it is hot?’ If this is the general consensus - then we have to realise that the term 'conscious' choices will never prevail, as we as a civilisation lose our moral compass in a race to the bottom.

The Time lag of Learning the Pros and Cons.

People who have been alive for 50 years or longer will realise that ‘old NZ’ - was a country where there was a closer relationship between neighbours and community. That we once had politicians who we could approach and genuinely converse with. Political parties had ‘Manifestos” - which they produced prior to an election and that they would follow or do their best to adhere to. 

Now-a-days it’s ‘ad hoc’ everything and intentions are thrown out the window as politicians 'make up policy on the fly' and they trust that because the world is moving at such a rapid pace that any flak or faux pas will have its 5 minutes in the headlines - to then be subsumed by more outrageous news to be quickly forgotten by the public - by the next election.

With the Corporate Agenda interlocking with Government, as the premise of the eroding of public confidence - we are finding that there is no real intent to educate the public on this global 5G issue. We are being subjected to glitzy advertising - telling us how much better the world is going to be with slick computer graphics and yet, all these videos do not show anything of nature - no trees, flowers or pastures green. (see Spark) - Because they are all being commissioned by head trippers who are controlling the narrative to buy into 5G.

Grass Roots Awakening across NZ.

However - across NZ there are concerned people who are aware of the problems that 5G may carry with it. Groups of people are organising to have the discussion that Teleco's will not have.

Such as recently in Albany, Waiheke Island, Mangawhai, Torbay, West Auckland - Coromandel, Tauranga, Wanganui, Wellington, Nelson, and the Golden Bay/Takaka area that there is a grassroots movement spreading like mushrooms - because inherently there is a distrust of corporate’s worldwide as well as a reticence to believe in what our Governments are saying and not necessarily doing or ... vice versa.

Global 5G Awakening

This grass roots uprising is happening overseas and at this stage it is in Brussels the seat of the EU Governmental Centre which has come out for a moratorium. But, Mill Valley in California is calling for a halt - Byron Bay in Australia is making a lot of noise and in Switzerland one of the Cantons has dug in and said stop.There are many other places, such as in Italy, Florence is pushing for the Precautionary Principle and the Rome district wants to follow suit. Even in Russia the Defence Ministry has acknowledged 5G’s problems. However, as MSM - ‘mainstream media’ (along with Google) is all pro 5G - it is extremely difficult to get a full coverage of how many regions of all the world’s countries are involved in pushing back.

The Minister of the Government of the Brussels-Capital Region, Céline Fremault, has vowed to halt 5G deployment. “The people of Brussels are not guinea pigs whose health I can sell at a profit,” states Fremault in an interview with L’Echo. “I cannot welcome such technology if the radiation standards, which must protect the citizen, are not respected, 5G or not.”

Brussels halts 5G deployment indefinitely: 5G project, says authorities, not compatible with radiation safety standards

How Citizens Can Organise To Come Together

In this interview NZ's Nuclear Free Movement back in the mid 1980s was invoked as an example of how individuals and communities across the country came together back then. This was when local people, like mothers, churches, disarmament activists and people just wanting a peaceful world went to their local, regional councils, including towns, cities and boroughs and having them pass municipal by-laws that made each particular area a Nuclear Free Zone. That over time the numbers increased until there were around 105 Nuclear Free 'Zones' across the whole nation. These covered an area of around 67% of human habitat - that allowed David Lange the NZ Prime Minister the mandate to make into Law, that NZ become a Nuclear Free Country. This was an example of democracy being allowed to fulfil itself.

Building a Groundswell

This example of community involvement could be used to encourage NZer's to instigate more 5G communities to show the Government our ‘elected servants’ that there is a huge groundswell of public opinion that is not at all happy with the way 5G technologies is being enforced on the NZ public. More so, that next year NZ is having its general election and this could very well be an election issue.

Elections Coming Up

Also that later on this year there are Local Government elections and Councillors have to be elected - and already mentioned in this interview 4 Board Members attended the Albany local 5G presentation that allowed them to see the seriousness of what this technology presents. As well as the concerns of the electorate.

How to Organise Locally at Grassroot Levels

5GFree-NZ on Facebook and are places for you to peruse - especially - if you want to start up a local 5G Group.

Sue is also involved with Oceania Radiofrequency Scientific Advisory Association (ORSAA)  It’s an Advisory Panel that brings together multidisciplinary scientific experts from the Oceania region as well as from other parts of the world. They are connected to many other leading experts globally. 

Doctors and Professionals are ‘encouraged’ not to speak out against 5G.

As a side note - because Doctors are in a profession with exacting standards - they have to have permission from their 'Medical Association' - if they wish to make any pronouncements on health issues in the public arena.

In the case of speaking up against technologies such as genetic modification, vaccines, fluoridation etc - this is way outside the bounds of what the Medial Association allows.

It is forbidden and if a medical professional speaks out against such subject matter they are  'warned' that they will lose their license and thus all such doctors etc are kept on a very short leash. 

Hence, you will rarely see a Dr speak out on public health issues. The same goes for scientists and many University professors - as 


Doctor’s Grouping in Large Numbers.

There is a large group of Doctors ready to speak out - so they are grouping in numbers large enough to have safely in numbers. This is about to happen very soon.

This is a Global Issue … and we are exposed to 5G radiation 24/7/365

Science is finding DNA damage - and even our ability to clearly think, when in the presence of wireless radiation. Some liken this radiation to living in an airport security zone 24/7/365 

The NZ Health Act

Legislation and the 1956 NZ Health Act. 

It says that they are for  improving, promoting and protecting public health.

What does it mean 'protecting public health?

This is where the focus of 5G needs to concentrate on. What are the NZ Authorities, the Government and the Health Department doing to prove that this technology is safe?

In this interview we learn that the Ministry of Health is interpreting the Act differently and not necessarily protecting public health - but more so vested interests! (Listen) - even just for the first 1 minute will give you a startling understanding of what we are having to deal with.

Time for a 5G Moratorium across NZ.

By enacting a ‘moratorium’ in the meantime - allows the ‘precautionary principle’ to be acknowledged - this to any wise, civic, responsible elder is the prudent thing to do.

Can New Zealand become a global leader and become 5G Free?

This is a very quick synopsis of only 15 minutes into this very important understanding of the dangers of deploying 5G before the facts of its safety and efficacy are made known.  

5GFree-NZ on Facebook and are places for you to peruse - especially - if you want to start up a local 5G Group.

I enjoyed talking with Sue on this vexing subject, and to find a way to solve the 5G challenge. - Tim

Aug 14, 2019

Christine Rose is a Campaign Advisor for World Animal Protection, continuing her decades-long advocacy for better protection for Māui and Hector's dolphins. 

In her role in this global animal welfare organisation, Christine applies her knowledge of politics and love of philosophy into 'the new frontier' of animal ethics, working to move the world for animals' welfare and rights.

The New Zealand Government has now released the public consultation draft for its Threat Management Plan, TMP, for Māui and Hector's dolphins – New Zealand’s only endemic dolphin species, and among the world’s most endangered. The proposed plan doesn't go far enough she says. It fails to protect all habitat for all Māui and Hector's sub-populations.

You can make a submission below by August 19, 2019.


Māui and Hector’s are the smallest (and among the rarest) dolphins in the world and are only found in New Zealand. These much-loved dolphins are friendly and often interact with surfers and swimmers.

Māui and Hector’s dolphins are a New Zealand “taonga” (a highly valued treasure) and are celebrated in our culture and art. They deserve our respect and protection.

The official population estimate for Māui dolphins is about 57 and, in 2018 alone, at least four Māui’s dolphins were found dead on North Island beaches. Some of the small South Island Hector’s dolphin sub-populations number as low as 40 individuals. The problem is simple – much of the Hector’s and Māui habitat is unprotected from human threats and human populations.  Areas they live in, travel through and need to survive have limited or no protection. Because of the fishing activity within their habitat, dolphins continue to get caught in nets and drown – sometimes whole families.


The TMP is a plan used by the Department of Conservation and Fisheries New Zealand to help make management decisions around threats towards protected species in New Zealand.

The first Hector's and Māui dolphin TMP was created in 2007 to evaluate and manage the risks from threats such as fishing, tourism, vessel strike, pollution, climate change, and disease. Protection measures were established to help protect Māui and Hector’s dolphins.

The Govt only reviews its Maui and Hector's dolphin Threat Management Plan once every 5-10 years and these dolphins are on the brink of extinction. There are only about 57 adult Maui dolphins and some of the small South Island subpopulations are even lower in number.

The proposed TMP doesn't cover the whole dolphin range - it misses out off-shore range to 100m deep, and subpopulations on the North Island East Coast, between the North and South Islands, Marlborough Sounds, gaps around the East and South Coasts of the South Island.

It allows seabed mining and oil and gas exploration in most of the dolphins' habitat. it fails to impose a rigorous and robust monitoring programme. It allows 80-100 dolphins to be killed as by-catch every year. It overstates the costs to the fishing industry of full protection, and understates the benefits according to the work that has been commissioned by World Animal Protection.

It would seem that cameras need to be installed on all commercial fishing vessels.


Fishing nets have killed all but a third of the Hector's and Maui dolphins. It's time to stop! Gillnets are the most serious threat, followed by trawling.

Scientific research has proven that the current protection measures are NOT enough.

Fishing nets have killed all but a third of the Hector's and Maui dolphins. It's time to stop! Gillnets are the most serious threat, followed by trawling.


About 45 Hector's dolphins live in Porpoise Bay in the Catlins, 42 off Otago, two or three hundred in Te Waewae Bay on the south coast, and about 200 off the north coast of the South Island.

Hector's dolphin is rapidly following in the footsteps of Maui dolphin, with their populations becoming more and more fragmented. One after the other small, local population has dwindled, endangering the species as a whole.

These dolphins range to 20 nautical miles offshore, so if protection is extended to all waters less than 100 metres deep we would see the populations grow and recover from the losses they have suffered over the last four decades. This would stop the continued dolphin by-catch (entanglement in fishing gear) problem. 


Christine also spoke about the four aspects of the work done by World Animal Protection.

Animals in Communities

Animals play a vital role in communities worldwide – and we need  to protect them. Christine explains that they help governments to manage dog populations humanely and to vaccinate against rabies, instead of culling dogs. They share advice on responsible pet ownership. They prevent working animals being overworked and abused. They do whatever is necessary to protect animals in communities worldwide, including at home here in New Zealand.

Animals in Farming

Christine says, “The majority of animals farmed for food live in conditions that cause suffering and stress. It’s time to rethink farming.

The treatment of farm animals is the world’s biggest animal welfare issue – and it’s getting bigger. By 2050, livestock production will be twice what it was in 2000. Right now, more than 70 billion animals are farmed for food each year – two-thirds in conditions that mean they can’t move freely or live naturally. We campaign for progress at every stage – from farming to transportation to slaughter.”

Animals in Disasters

It is necessary to move fast to protect animals affected by disasters, reducing suffering and helping governments and communities to recover and rebuild.

Animals in the Wild

World Animal Protection works around the globe to protect and save world animals, and to keep wild animals in the wild, where they belong. They try and stop elephants from being ridden and allow them to be wild animals, for example.

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Christine Rose is a Campaign Advisor for World Animal Protection, continuing her decades-long advocacy for better protection for Māui and Hector's dolphins. In her role in this global animal welfare organisation, Christine applies her knowledge of politics and love of philosophy into 'the new frontier' of animal ethics, working to move the world for animals' welfare and rights. Previously she has been a councillor for Auckland Regional Council and a board member for Rodney District Council.

In her spare time, Christine spends as much time in and on the sea as possible. She's a writer often focusing on environmental ethics, and a ceramic artist and painter, inspired by nature and the ocean.


You can make a submission by either copying the submission below, or adapting it to one of your own, or sign this submission from World Animal Protection – but time is short.

Consultation: Hector’s and Māui Dolphin Threat Management Plan

Submission form:  

Contact details - phone number, email

Email to: by August 19 2019

(Thanks to Suzanne Vincent for writing this.)

“The proposal falls far short of what is required.  The best options described do not even approach the levels of protection for Maui dolphins recommended by the International Whaling Commission and the IUCN, or in the Green and Labour Party conservation policies. The options proposed to protect Hector’s dolphins fall even shorter, even though these dolphins are also endangered.

It is essential that the following measures are taken:

  1. A total ban on set nets and trawls from both the entire Hector’s dolphin and the Māui dolphin habitat - to be applied in all waters less than 100 metres depth:

    Large numbers of these dolphins are dying in fishing nets.  For there to be any chance of these species recovering and thriving, human induced deaths must be reduced to effectively zero for both species. For this reason, only dolphin-safe fishing methods must be used in their habitat. Fishing is the most urgent threat, and these measures must be taken swiftly and decisively: it is not acceptable for fishing interests to prevail in this situation.

    Research commissioned by World Animal Protection found that in comparison to the benefits to be gained from full protection throughout the full Maui and Hector’s habitat, the costs to the fishing industry are minor.

  2. Cameras must be installed on all commercial fishing vessels to ensure compliance with the restrictions, and to ensure that bycatch is reported accurately:

    Monitoring is low in some areas, and more dolphins are being caught than is known; it is very important that we have an accurate picture of what is happening

  3. Of these threats, seismic surveying and seabed mining pose the greatest risk to Hector’s and Māui dolphins.   There must be an outright ban on seabed mining, oil exploration and drilling from the entire Hector’s and Māui dolphin habitat

    The severe pressures from noise and seabed disturbance from the activities of oil exploration, drilling and seabed mining, including sediment discharge, must be eradicated from the dolphins’ entire habitat. It is not sufficient to impose restrictions only for new activities, the threats must be removed from areas covered by existing permits. Government must take clear action to prohibit all activities that create disturbance to the habitat, and which could easily result in the loss of these species.  

Thank you for the opportunity to make this submission.”


Aug 8, 2019

Jodie is a Trustee for Physicians Scientists for Global Responsibility, an organisation that has been around for about 20 years.

Its focus is on independent science information in the public interest, and the public’s right to be independently informed on issues concerning both ecosystem and human health. 

Jodie also founded the organisation to draw attention to the problems of inadequate chemical regulation, that currently is too outdated and too dependent on private industry produced science to protect public health.

However, she stresses that this interview is not on behalf of PSGR.  This interview reflects her independent research on what is happening in NZ.  

The challenges today are how to promote wellbeing in the population and protect NZ's future generations. Though at heart it is very simple – it is about good nutrition, clean food and water, and transparency and accountability in Government. But when you delve into it, it is very complex, because we deal with each issue separately – we put health issues in silos, but when people tip into one illness, they frequently tip into more.

The Data is Telling
The data increasingly demonstrates that the nation’s health is being unduly affected by a combination of poor nutrition and toxicity that we are finding in the growing list of illnesses that we see in our population today. New Zealand doesn’t do much research to understand this, but this shouldn’t keep us from understanding the international science that indicates nutritional parameters are presently at very low levels. These can cause disease and depressive symptoms, as well as chemical exposures in the general public, thus creating long-term damaging stress to our body biology, that also sets the stage for increasing even more disease.  

The increases in population level illnesses are alarming. But, especially in children.


Jodie wants everyone to know what the word ‘comorbidity’ means – because when you become ill - you frequently do not become ill with just one affliction. 

For example, the science literature shows that people with irritable bowel or a functional disturbance of the intestines - that about 60% of people are likely to also suffer from depression as well. Comorbidity is common. With obesity - there is a massive overlap with type 2 diabetes and depressive disorder - that is an issue and these have been increasing dramatically over just the last 5 years. Then heart disease risk, cancer risk, osteoporosis can be added in etc. Yet, we do not see budgeting in the public sector to talk about this cumulative cost of comorbidity.

Overlapping illnesses with other illnesses.

So if you are not taking in healthy food (chemical free, with appropriate, bio-available fibre), then down-stream, you may experience bowel issues - that is where we absorb nutrients. We are now having issues with bone density or we have rheumatoid arthritis - or we can’t properly concentrate at school, and it’s affecting our IQ and our ability to learn, cope and have resilience. All of these may be impaired as well. But, what is shown is that you just don’t have eczema or Crohn’s disease and fatigue - what you are experiencing can be an overlap of many ailments.

Why is this Happening?
The question that is being asked is why is this happening? Science tells us that we can have a genetic connection, but frequently a genetic disposition is a secondary factor, - it is the environment, the combination of dietary and inflammatory stress that tips us into disease that we are genetically predisposed to. (Of course some people will express clearly inherited traits in every generation.) This is why 50 to 80 years ago we did not have the huge numbers of problems that we have now.

Endocrinologists are noticing the problems
Hormone mimicking chemicals harm us at parts per billion and parts per trillion, lower than the levels chemical regulators look at. So what are the endocrinologists saying - like Dr. Leo Trasande - he’s looking at the plastics in our diet - pesticides, air pollution, personal care products, household products and that they are adding up. Dr Trasande said in the book ‘Sicker, Fatter, Poorer’ that the problems of hormone damage directly relate to the pressures from all these chemicals – ‘Endocrine-disrupting chemicals are the second greatest environmental challenge of our time.’ Second to Climate Change.  This is how serious things are becoming.

Jodie, says we are affected from conception - a baby foetus inside its mother can be exposed to between 200 to 300 plus different chemicals. A young child is worryingly more exposed. For example you give a toddler a glass of milk and then give an adult a glass of milk - the toddler will have 3 to 5 times the exposure of the adult because of the size of the drink to body weight - so when you do a urine test or a blood serum test for that toddler it has a far greater exposure rate with high urinary or blood germ concentrations. This means that the toddler is being exposed to far more challenges than any adult – but there are no science resources in New Zealand to understand how this is harming our children.

This is not really being considered by regulators.  - please listen

Just like a young mother putting on sunscreen to protect their child from the intensity of UV, yet the creams are now considered to have ingredients that are toxic as well. 

Once NZ had an Independent Scientific Government Department - called the DSIR.
Need for Independent Science Research
Jodie sees the importance to not only have authorities check food for safety but also we critically need funding to protect and regenerate our soil health so that our crops and our animals are healthier and more resilient to pests. The science is there. We need to inform and resource farmers via old fashioned but really effective extension services. Where once NZ had a very robust Government Department called the DSIR - the Department of Scientific and Industrial Research, which had top quality research scientists who were free of any commercial interests and could check out and publish research on all aspects of nature - the food chain, and any other industrial purpose, having especially a deep focus on biology, but this has nearly all been lost. This came about, when the 4th Labour Government found themselves selling off a large percentage of NZ's State Owned Enterprises, the Crown Jewels of Government - and the DSIR was off loaded as well. Thus we lost an independent body of scientists who at one level were also public health watch dogs.

Lack of Robust NZ Media.
So the precautionary approach today has in many ways a very small voice - as the media, the Fourth Estate rarely puts out an article that for example, reflects who paid for the science, or what the ethical implications might be. 

The importance of ‘basic’ science – science silos can’t address comorbidity

New Zealand pays people to do ‘applied’ ‘silo-like’ science – zero in on one little issues. But the important ‘basic’ science that can look across issues and see big problems is comparatively rare. 

The importance of Epidemiologists
Epidemiologists in NZ are so now very critical, as like Grant A Schofield,  Boyd Swinburn and Alister Woodward - that we have very few areas in public health science where people are focusing on this multi-disciplinary problem - this comorbidity - that is not being looked at as either an economic problem or a ‘wellbeing' perspective. NZ is not paying people to research this area - just like Jodie, she is a volunteer and not being paid. So we have a vacuum in this field and it is important for the NZ public to address this yawning horrible gap in public health and in our general awareness.

NZ Revolutionary ‘Wellbeing’ - Budget did not cover food or diet.

Boyd Swinburn in referring to the NZ’s Government’s ‘Revolutionary’ Wellbeing Budget’ said no mention was made of food or diet - so this is a huge dropout by both treasury and the health department - because we all have to eat 3 times a day. Jul 2, 2019 - Boyd Swinburn: Drastic change in our food systems needed. 2 Jul, 2019 ... Our future food systems must continue to add to our wellbeing

In asking about who else is speaking out about health and wellbeing …she said there are a lot of science based experts in NZ talking on the need for healthy nutrition, diet and the importance of micronutrients - but they are not getting any traction in Government Policy – their idea of ‘treatment’ involves drugs, not nutrition.

So Jodie says we just have to look further up the command chain within Government.  In particular if public servants are really making rules and policies that are consistent with the purpose or function or intention of the Act -  that then actually gives them the power to make decisions and rules. Everything the Government (our elected servants) does should be in the public interest, and there is a wide body of administrative law supporting this.

NZ Health Act 1956

What is it under the Act that our Government Departments are working for? For example - Jodie is talking with young Mums with two year olds that are home - she says - go to your computer and Search - Legislation NZ Health Act 1956 and then search up the function of the Ministry in relationship to public health and this shows you in Section A  … the Ministry shall have the function of improving, promoting and protecting public health’

Note: ‘Protecting Public Health.’

Education for our children – connecting nutrition with biology.

We do not have home economics of food science - that actually look at nutrition - as food science is slanted towards food technology.

So teenagers are taught to prepare food for the market - Let's produces something suitable that can be sold on the market – but they don’t understand how cabbage or broccoli work in the gut to prevent disease and reduce mental illness. Preferably organic.

They are not taught that magnesium comes from plant chlorophyll that many thousands of years ago, prior to starting to become an agricultural society we were eating so many dark green leafy plants - and now the food we eat today is being denuded of the magnesium that we need in our diet. 

A Better Green Healthy Diet improves Wellbeing.
Due to our present diet, our body physiology that requires magnesium is devoid of this important mineral.  Children are lacking this element that is in need to give them deep quality sleep at night. Current diets don’t provide the broad variety bioavailable fibre that the microbiome needs (the intestines) i.e to feed beneficial bacteria and fungi - that not only assist for better sleep, but better skin, plus they might not be so irritable and actually doing better in school tests, too. 

Education is Needed!
Our education system should be teaching our kids that a good healthy gut synthesises hormones, as well as makes neurotransmitters. The population of New Zealand thinks that mental health is only in the brain. Mental health is directly connected to stress and trauma – but critically – nutrition and toxicity (and the ability of the microbiome to deal with that toxicity).

They may not be so 'jumping up and down' - they might also not be so sad …

Deficiency In Our Diet
Another example Jodie mentions - If we look up the B vitamins - Vitamin D and Vitamin C and magnesium and you look up the symptoms of deficiency - then come from the other end - look at depression and anxiety and look at the somatic symptoms the physiological body symptoms of depression and anxiety - and if every young mother did this and connected the dots as to where these deficiency symptoms that we are seeing in mental health - that this is why it's so debilitating to our youth or in Jodie’s words it’s actually trashing our young people.

Obligations of the Ministry of Health
Consider the obligation of the Ministry of Health – that they should have the ‘function of improving, promoting and protecting public health.’ - and we are given prescriptions of anti-depressants and anti-anxiety - she says they have their place - but they do not heal. Add on the other drugs for the frequently comorbid conditions… 

The Ministry has the ‘function of improving, promoting and protecting public health.’

We have to clean up our diet and clean up all food additives going all the way back through the food chain to our soil and water.

This interview covers so many points affecting our health - within our body - but also the soil and waterways of NZ.

It is important that you take the time to download this interview into your computer as it is only 20 megabytes and that is the equivalent of around 7 photographs.  - Tim

Extra Data.

This below is the 25th Australian dietary survey, It’s important as the North Island receives most of its wheat from Australia, these cereals have many different sprays of agrichemicals, so the mixture of chemicals (some of which probably cause cancer) on cereals is eye opening. 

Recommended reading:

Sir Geoffrey Palmer & Andrew Butler’s critically important 2018 book ‘Towards Democratic Renewal’ draws attention to the problems of democracy in New Zealand, with recommendations moving forward. Members at PSGR’s annual AGM stressed members read ‘Towards Democratic Renewal’ (ISBN: 9781776561834). The content provides an assessment of problematic governance and the requirement for greater transparency and accountability within the public sector. This book is a great gift for the younger generation, it is useful for understanding the machinery of government, while providing a hopeful and logical pathway to a new era of governance-direction and human rights for New Zealand.

  • Professor Catherine Iorns’ insightful paper on New Zealand’s outdated environmental chemical (pesticides) regulation standards ‘Permitting Poison’ – draws attention to the complexity of biological systems and risk and how the precautionary principle should operate at a 'meta-level' in decision-making.
  • Professor Jonathan Boston produced a 2017 book on governance titled ‘Safeguarding the Future’. He wrote ‘Part of the solution must be to embed a concern for the future within day-to-day policy-making frameworks & processes rather than treating it as an optional extra or expendable luxury.’
  • Max Rashbrooke’s positive 2018 book encouraging participatory democracy  ‘Government for the Public Good’. 

An extract from a 2014 paper:

JA Tainter & TG Taylor: Complexity, problem-solving, sustainability and resilience: ‘Increasing complexity, effective at first, seems inexorably to accumulate and to evolve to diminishing returns, undermining the ability to solve future problems’. 

‘Complexity is a basic problem-solving tool. Confronted with problems, societies often respond by developing more complex technologies, establishing new institutions, adding more specialists or bureaucratic levels to an institution, increasing organization or regulation, or gathering and processing more information. While societies usually prefer not to bear the cost of complexity, problem-solving efforts are powerful complexity generators. All that is needed for the growth of complexity is a problem that requires it. Since problems continually arise, there is persistent pressure for complexity to increase’. P.169 

In human societies that are hierarchical, the benefits of complexity often accrue at the top of a hierarchy, while the costs are paid at lower levels. Since benefits and costs do not connect, the cost of complexity often cannot constrain its growth. P.170


Jul 25, 2019

Thousands of people today are opting to live with an intention to work and play together in establishing a high quality yet low impact lifestyle.

Nested Communities

Blending nature and architecture into one’s daily living, opens a new vista of possibility for both creativity and group dynamics. To welcome birdsong outside our window every morning, to look upon lush fragrant flower gardens, shrubs and trees. Whilst the hum of singing and children’s hushed yet focussed activities - garnishes collaboration and goodwill - as we are again re-envision what it is like to be human and learn as to how people can live together in co-creative harmony.     

As we realise the speed and noise of city life is impacting our world, with megacities overwhelming us with their raw and yawning sprawling footprint - the Global Ecovillage Network is springing up like quintessential life force nodal points - all around the curvature of our home planet - taking us into the next evolutionary spiral of an awakening earth, nested in a regenerating biosphere.

A renewal of human endeavour 

This is an inspired idea, to embrace a renewal of our being and unfold our spiritual quest to realise our potential as an individual tightly coupled within the human family - shaping a new tomorrow for our children’s, children’s, children. Recognising that within the new emerging paradigm limitation has no boundaries.

In this interview, Kosha tells us:          

That the Global Ecovillage Network was set up in 1995 and it came about by ‘reading the feedback’ of human beings and sensing that people globally were wanting to come together to live in communities, some of them intentional and for all manner of reasons - and that the underlying principle was that all participators realised that our present day civilisation was undoing the very fabric of both nature and the way we were living.

Also, that we need to reconnect again with each other in a duty of care and by being mindful, take over as guardians of life, by connecting to the power of community. That by their duty of care and inner wisdom realised that they had to not only sustain life but more so - regenerate life for all biota - within the majesty of our life supporting biosphere.

So the Global EcoVillage Network is at heart an ever expanding cooperative endeavour - to support and assist the many more communities that are coming together by all manner of means as of this very moment.

Kosha says they continue to reach out to areas that we know very little about - for example, North African countries and linking and networking with people of great integrity. From this they are able to share their experience, knowledge and solutions to assist new communities to grow and prosper.

Group dynamics is often driven by some one who is an experienced ‘link’ person, able to act as the focaliser and may have strengths in Permaculture or Co housing - or Transition Towns - so have a deep knowingness as to how communities can cohesively ‘come into being.’

She talks about inner change that happens when we work for the betterment and the greater good. This may be by one’s connection to nature or even indigenous cultures - that are often the seed of such a project.

Yet, know we can not do these projects alone, because they are all people oriented and so with the focus on being part of the solutions - in a group situation - this is when novelty and creative energies converge-  synergistically - and profound creative works evolve.

Based on all 4 areas of regeneration - around ecology, economy, social and culture.

GEN is also involved in supporting - co-op gardens - Green cafes, green schools - business wanting to become more holistically green - and conscious.  

Stepping up - from - eco communities. Up to 20 adults and more adults are called an ecovillage from there to - eco neighbourhoods - eco cities - eco regions and eco nations and eco civilisations. Being all encompassing - Ecos - the Greek word Oikos to do with taking care of the home - the ecos-sphere - coming home to Our planet.

Global Family

It's a whole movement that is transforming human presence on our planet - from the individual up to societal change.

Kosha mentions the what is unrealised and un-utilised is "Good Intentions” -  and their wish is to have this play out in as being a part of the solution.- and to show a pathway there - ‘they’ in her words - love to go there.

And she is dealing with politicians from the UN to the EU and Corporates etc - they all have grandchildren - and this is the common denominator   

Indigenous communities are mentioned as being very important. As with the increasingly rapid changes brought about by technical and industrial man it has thrown so many traditions out of balance. Especially, as to what is happening with globalised land management, like industrial agriculture, cropping, harvesting, transport and marketing, that so many countries are having major challenges in adapting to this fast moving world. Particularly as to housing and educating the rural population to be participators in the future of their regions and countries.  

Kosha also says that we are meant to sing ourselves back into life - that at heart need to find ourselves in a secure and peaceful situation that we are able to just sing ourselves into happiness. There are community gardens in Auckland where people come to garden yet, sing as well.

De-colonialisation - how do we heal this? Especially land issues that have not been acknowledged with indigenous peoples all around the globe who have been unfairly discriminated against. They feel very good about GEN and what it offers. To be able to learn the skills to reconcile many of the injustices that have happened over time.  

Aotearoan Maori. 

Especially regarding the marae becoming the centre of eco village learning.          

Subjects covered:  organic food growing, permaculture - renewable energy, and the fact that in the early 1970’s the then Labour Government offered up opportunities to return to the land under the name of Ohu’s -  where grants could be obtained for small communities to make the rural sector more productive.   

Currently GEN reaches out to over 6,000 communities worldwide, having a presence in 114 countries around our planet. So they are very well placed to be able to offer substantial advice and information for any prospective groups of people wanting to commit to building a community, that and ways about getting funding for infrastructure etc.

Business Enterprises

GEN is focussing on social entrepreneurship so as to make communities resilient and viable and there are many innovative ways to cooperate and collaborate. Time banks, Green dollars, savings pools and all manner of ways to make diversify into the marketplace. They have so many resources to share as to how to sustainably build up a successful, localised, economic model.  


There were many other questions that did not get asked, especially the term Ubuntu, which comes from South Africa where Kosha was born.

“Ubuntu” is an African expression of ancient wisdom, which is echoed by all ancient civilizations. It simply means “unity within community” where everyone contributes their natural talents or skills for the greater benefit of all.

In order to create such harmonious communities, we, the people, must lead to a new ‘consciousness’ - without the need for any violence, opposition or conflict – by simply creating a new alternative – a new system – a new way of doing things – because the old way simply does not work for us anymore.

To be able to create a new system in which competition turns into collaboration. To birth a new society in which we all benefit from our collective efforts and individual talents.  

This interview with Kosha gives an excellent entry level understanding and overview of how to approach the challenges of forming an intentional (or any other) community - that allows for more creativity and freedom to chart one’s own course in a localised ecological setting. One where you can tap into the resources of a huge network of like minded yet diverse conscious people. This being a forerunner to a new planetary paradigm.

Jul 18, 2019

Hordur Torfason suffered as a young man fighting personal discrimination, having been bullied and chased from Iceland for being gay. He then gave what he had learned from it to the whole of Iceland, in the wake of the global financial crisis. He stood strong for human rights, and found himself leading Iceland in the ‘Cutlery Revolution’.

He came to New Zealand this year to speak about how ‘the leader he was looking for was inside himself’.


Hordur Torfason was waiting for a leader to stand up against discrimination of gays in Iceland in his twenties. Suddenly one day he realised that no one was coming to do it. He says, “If you can’t find a leader then be one yourself – don’t wait for someone else” “The leader I was looking for was inside myself”!

He was the first man in his country to step out and say, “I am gay and there is nothing wrong with that”. Overnight, he was out of work. He lost everything. Constantly threatened, he had to flee to Denmark.

He decided to return to Iceland and fight. He worked to turn the bad into something good. Slowly, he built a gay rights organisation and a gay theatre company.

Now accepted, “Hörður Torfason is a noted Icelandic songwriter and activist. He has written plays and poetry, played numerous roles on stage and in several films, directed about 50 stage productions and designed and built stage sets for most of them.” Wikipedia.


In 2008, when Hordur was age 63 the global financial crisis hit. By October 2008, Iceland's debt had rocketed to more than seven times its GDP. All three of Iceland's major commercial banks defaulted on their debts. The value of the national currency fell sharply. A severe economic depression set in. Unemployment tripled. Many people lost all their savings. The nation was in crisis. All around him, Torfason saw desperation, confusion and anger. "It was obvious no-one was going to help them," he says.

The bank crash occurred on Monday October 6th (2008) and the following Saturday Hordur started to ask questions of friends, and on Facebook. He told his friends that he would be at parliament every day at midday and he asked his friends to join him. Gradually the crowd grew until thousands came.

He had two questions for parliament:

“Do you know what happened and how can you explain it?”

and “Have you any idea what to do about it?”

People were very angry, some having lost their houses and their cars, but he said to the crowd, “We don’t use violence – do you agree?” and the crowd agreed. He led the idea but cleverly got buy-in from the crowd.

In the interview Hordur explains how two Iceland banks had been ‘bought’ by private interests for no money, showing the corrupt relationship between the politicians and business.


After the government of Iceland was made to resign and the new government, a coalition of Greens and Social Democrats was in power, the people requested that there be a new constitution. A committee of 25 people were voted to write it. However once finished, it was ignored. Hordur speaks of the importance of having a constitution and how it should be reviewed or renewed every 20 years as things are always changing.

As the new constitution has not been ratified, a group called the Constitution Society has been formed and there is pressure for the government to bow to the people’s demands. However Hordur says this is difficult because the country is not really run by politicians, but by a group of “ten white middle aged white men behind parliament running everything.”


Yellow Vest Movements have contacted Hordur from both France and Canada. However there did not seem to be one leader for him to talk to and so thus far he has avoided responding. He feels that when organisations have violence and not brains in action, he is not willing to support them. “You can’t have a lot of leaders,” he says, but you must connect with the people and ask what is their pain. If there is no pain then ask why they are protesting. He also advises to ignore rudeness, It is just the inability to express themselves.

Hordur explains the reason French protestors chose yellow vests is because everyone had them in their cars, in case of breakdowns – so it was easy to use them and make themselves distinctive. In Iceland they took pots and pans to their protests to bang and make a noise, with the intent of disturbing the politicians in parliament. It is good to have an identifying theme when protesting.


Recently Hordur had a book published about his life and protests. It is called, “Bylting”, which means both Breakthrough and Revolution in Icelandic. Here’s hoping it is translated into English soon.

He has another book in the pipeline and while not as young as he used to be, retirement does not look like a likely option for quite some time.

He lives in Reykjavik with his partner Massimo Santanicchia who is an urbanist, planner, and assistant professor at the Iceland Academy of the Arts in Reykjavik.

“Agent of Change” – a write up of Hordur’s 2019 visit to New Zealand.

Here is Lisa’s 2013 Greenplanetfm interview with Hordur

Here is Lisa’s 2016 Greenplanetfm interview with Hordur

Jun 13, 2019

In this interview Allan tells the story about the finding of a treasure in the earth. It's called bentonite clay - Maori would call it a ‘taonga’ - in that embedded in the ground of the Southland Plains in New Zealand, they are able to collect from the 'living earth' a mineral clay, that when ingested - can profoundly benefit our health.

To which Allan states, 'nature is the chemist’.

Allan Thomas and his wife Noreen are from Gore in the South, of the South Island of New Zealand. As a  genuine kiwi South Islander, Allan tells us in his down to earth way (no pun intended) - that he has always been into fitness, athletics, and health in general and in 2010 one of his mates, now his business partner - told him that the area where they lived had a clay that was extremely rich in minerals that upon it analysis they called it 'living clay.'

He intuitively felt that this was right.

Allan, intuitively upon reading this report on clay’s ‘efficacy' immediately decided to drink this as a soluble preparation - and noticed changes within his being very soon after. (listen to him drinking before thinking).

It was within days, that he cajoled his wife and his new-to-be business partners into sipping - to realise how healthy they felt - especially being able to have a very good restful sleep. At this time he also recognised that the clay as a soluble drink (or in capsule form) - was instrumental in detoxing himself from all the toxins that we are taking in from today’s environment. Many of them unknowingly.  

With environmental toxins playing such a significant factor in the onset of all manner of illness and disease, it becomes imperative to protect ourselves from them, and to remove them from our systems as rapidly as possible. Unfortunately, it's impossible to completely avoid these toxins; they are in the air we breathe, the water we drink, and the food we eat. Internal cleansing and detoxification are needed to remove these substances from our bodies.

Fortunately we now have a more natural way to detoxify our body, that has very few reactions, and works very well —it's called  calcium Bentonite clay.

What is Calcium Bentonite Clay, and How Does it Work?

Calcium Bentonite clay is a member of the Montmorillonite/Smectite family of clays. Also called Living Clay, it is one of the most sought after of the healing clays. It carries a uniquely strong negative ionic charge which causes it to `magnetically` attract any substance with a positive ionic charge (i.e., bacteria, toxins, metals, etc.). These substances are both adsorbed (sticking to the outside like Velcro) and absorbed (drawn inside) by the clay molecules. The toxins are then eliminated from the body as the clay is eliminated or removed.

Calcium Bentonite clay is used both internally and externally to detoxify the body. Clay cannot be digested, so when taken internally in liquefied form, the clay passes through your system collecting the toxins, and removing them as the clay is eliminated. If drinking the liquefied clay is not palatable to you, you can take it as capsules, or it can be added to food, juices, or smoothies. Used externally, clay baths have proven to be highly effective at removing toxins also. Because of clay's excellent drawing effect, the clay has the power to literally pull toxicities through the pores of the skin in the bath.

Allan talks about the energies of clay and he recognises something in it that he intuitively sees - as alive.

Clay can not be patented

Fortunately, since clay is 'nature made’ - it cannot be patented by pharmaceutical corporations, so they are unwilling to promote its use, however the downside of this is that most of today’s Medical professionals like doctors are unaware of the benefits of Bentonite clay.

In this interview Allan shares with us many testimonials as to the healing effects that people have experienced yet always with the caution of keeping your health professional informed. He says virtually all Naturopaths are aware of the many benefits of ‘clay’ - so they are always a good source of support and validation.  

In furthering this interview Allan says that as we grow older certain ideas or thoughts come up and he reckons that he has been on the path to looking for a healthy way to improve the human condition. That essentially includes all of humanity and in this interview mentions the time when he felt a presence that has lead him to where he is now. Supporting people to draw from the earth sustenance that will benefit their long term health.

Energy and ‘frequency' are in Allan's estimation two important components underpinning and underlying our health and he mentions them.

He says, 'If natural medicine works for you - that’s all the science one needs.'

He really likes the word energy …  because Allan maintains that the clay has certain energies that work on the more subtle areas of our health. He cannot name it as such - however he innately knows that the minerals have a certain charge and these may have a synergistic effect whilst passing through the intestines.  

Stating a natural product has its own natural frequency, especially if it has not been interfered with.

I asked him, if there are bacteria in this clay?   

He said no, that there are no bacteria in the clay and he says that due to the initial forming of it, there never will be.

During the interview - super phosphates get mentioned  as we know NZ farmland is loaded with phosphates - Percy Weston writes - an important story about them

NOTE: If minerals are not in the soil they are not in your food.

Allan talks about everyone having a gift of one way or another - from healing hands to green fingers etc … from my interview I felt a vibe from him that carried a duty of care as well.

If your body is sleeping - it is repairing …

Both Rudolf Steiner and Ralph Waldo Emmerson’s names come up in this informative interview

This interview to me was very insightful and I recommend that you further your research into this health modality. - Tim     Allan Thomas

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Jun 6, 2019

As the caretaker of and its ‘container’ how did Tim come to obtain two powerful US web names - especially now that Sir David Attenborough is the main focus for ?

Of the 7.7 billion humans who inhabit ‘our planet spaceship earth’ - more and more are rapidly recognising that ‘we are Crew’ - who have been ‘absent without leave’ - AWOL. Now the message and command of the moment is for all crew to return to their posts and consciously cooperate and collaborate to stabilise both the ship and its complement - and save the mission!  But more so, they are finding out that their ship is a Mothership - a ‘super living organism’ that science is belatedly holding back in recognising.

Tim says that back in 1996, when living in Australia and the www was still in its infancy, he met a web savvy youth who helped him immensely in building a site and to register  At that time - was registered to the United Nations. So was the only option. He was happy with this as our planet is an organism - in actual fact, a super organism - whom the Greeks called Gaia, which was the basis of how Tim saw our planet. To him it was not a ‘com’ or anything to do with commerce - it was an organic unfoldment.  

How it all started:

Liz coaxes and finds out about his upbring in a remote farming community in the rural sector of NZ, surrounded by many impoverished Maori - and his realisation that there is a lot of inequality in the world.

First Breath on Earth.

She starts with some history of Tim and his place of conception Te Poi (the Ball) and his emergence in Matamata (point, summit, bluff) now known as Middle Earth where Hobbiton is situated where scenes from the movie Lord of the Rings took place - So Tim admits to being a hobbit.

Rural Upbring

Liz draws Tim out on his early life, that there were many Maori living as neighbours and the extremely poor living conditions that they lived in. Living in two room shacks, no power for lights, hot water, stove, plumbed toilets etc and he recognised early how fortunate that he was being a dairy farmer’s son. (Albeit a cowboy).

One of the more profound experiences in 1972 and 73 was driving 16,000 kilometres through Africa and hitch hiking and catching trains throughout East and Western Europe and then from London travelling overland back to NZ, hitching, bussing, plus trains (boat to Perth Australia and Sydney NZ by air).

That having witnessed so much suffering in his journey at the age of 22 and 23 that he thought that it was too difficult to bring about change - so ‘let’s have a good time instead.’ However, not far at all from where he was acting out ‘being a party animal’ - he met some Auckland people who made him think ... What was it that nothing living was permanent?  Why are our bodies continually breaking down? Who built the Egyptian Great Pyramid? Why are we here and why now? What are UFO’s and ET’s. Who was Apollonius of Tyana - and how did he de-materialise his body in front of Emperor Domitian in Rome. These were some of the subject matter that came up that he had not given much, if any thought to or knew anything about.

This situation - this turning point - where he hit ‘critical mass’ and experienced and realised a spiritual awakening that over a profound few weeks - changed him forever.

This was a major epiphany that in a matter of days -  turned his world not only upside down - but inside out as well.

This was when he realised that ‘we are spiritual beings having an earth experience.’ This metaphysical overhaul was so transformational that daily he was recognising that we humans had all been conditioned by hundreds if not thousands of old outmoded stereotypes - especially the financial power controllers, politics  - the war machine - but more so we were destroying the ecology and biosphere at the same time. That the destruction of nature had to stop - hence Tim had to make a stand.

That since this time in the Christmas of 1974 - he has continued this quest to both further his questioning whilst at the same time saying - if I, a fairly simple human can experience a major epiphany for want of a more defined word, then everyone else can. We just have to find the will, search for truth and be courageous and honest.

However at the same time, with no job or income - his name came up for an interview with Air NZ - and he was accepted as ‘a trolley dolly on a big tin budgie’ - As a steward, later called a Cabin Attendant - flying on DC 8’s DC10 and 747s and 767’s. Budgie - a native bird of Australia and an Aussie and Kiwi slang term for wide bodied planes - especially 747s. Also, in those days it was not commonly known that aircraft were burning off huge amounts of C02, and there were nowhere the number of aircraft in the sky at that time either.   

Perceptions of Flying in Low Earth Orbit

This shift to long distance air travel opened him up to the whole planet, to what he called ‘open university’ where he eventually flew Trans Pacific, Trans Continental North America and Trans Atlantic into Europe - plus Trans Australia and up into the Near East.

Tim describes his perspective of flying as always ‘flying around the curve’  - he saw our planet from the outside looking in - Like the Timothy Leary, Moody Blues song - “He’s outside ... looking in.”

That (we, living in) NZ could be perceived as being situated - tucked around the underside of our planet and that when a flight takes off from NZ - the plane after gaining height of 10,000 metres would hour after hour ‘claw’ its way ‘up the planet wall’ over the Tropic of Capricorn then after numerous hours pass over the equator and eventually the Tropic of Cancer and down into Los Angeles, 11 and half hours later. That during this long haul flight, our planet would be also rotating on its axis towards our eventual landing.     

This planetary overview allowed Tim when he was able to, to study all the ancient civilisations that had come and gone, and what caused their eventual demise  - usually corruption of the psych or self caused environmental, for example cutting down of all the forest.. He also studied the various world religions as well, to see that at their start they offered so much for the human spirit.

Visiting Global Centres of Holistic Learning

Tim also visited many ashrams, intentional communities, centers of learning, going to festivals like the Mind Body and Spirit Expositions, Whole Life Expos - as well as visiting gurus, teachers on consciousness and metaphysical scientists and experts in their field. Also checking out new technologies, like the solar farms in California and the large windmill farms there as well. This led him on to follow up on hydrogen power and free energy devices among many other things as well.     

Liz asks; What can we do to become Empowered

Tim talks to the metaphor that we are all seeds and we are have been underground and in darkness that when a certain timing occurs - that with an impulse - moisture, warmth etc - that seed can sprout and put down a tap root and push up a stem - that breaks out into the light of the sun and ... not being surrounded by blackness any more. This is a huge transition for a seed - to be in the light.

Then with photovoltaic leaves growing until the plant grows many - that eventually a bud, and then a blossom - to flower - petals open up - a fragrance of perfume may unveil itself - where does this essence go? (this process includes pollination).

Can the perfume of a flower be seen as a metaphysical analogy for something beyond the physical?

Is the essence of a flower a hidden message for us all?

If we were deciduous as a tree for example, this could happen year after year after year … and in another way … an egg,  a caterpillar - chrysalis - butterfly and a metamorphosis.

The cycles of life …

That we are also an energy field in a greater universal energy field.

“That every baby born into this realm is an energy bundle of exponential potential.”  

So what can we do? Liz asks;

Doing good in the world.

* Lifting up people’s vibes

* Pay it Forward - very easy to do -

* Random Acts of Kindness

* Being a Volunteer -

As Volunteerism is the glue that is keeping our planetary society together.

Lia and Tim volunteer for

Tim plants voluntarily plants trees to sequester C02 out of the atmosphere.

Ask yourself daily during a quiet  time. How much love is in your heart at the moment?

Remember that all of humanity shares the same breath

The holy breath … connects us all.

Our Inner Candle

That we all have an inner candle inside of us - that Tim shares this thought with children all the time and that we have to keep our inner candle burning - and strongly - that there is one thing that flames like - and that’s oxygen and by breathing deeply - as in Tai chi and Yoga - or meditation - we can feed our inner candle with the rich breath of oxygen, albeit 21% of our breath.

We are a Global Family

That we are all a global family that are slowly awakening into being - that we need to innovatively and consciously find ways to connect with our society and community.

Grass Roots Change

Connect as cells and with other cells and then clusters of cells to initiate localised ‘grass roots' change - together we can be the change that is so necessary

We are a global family awakening to our connection through the sharing of the invisible breath. All 7.7 billion of us.


This below is the 1996 web site.

The graphics have gone a bit awry and the population figures are old - but the idea is still very relevant today. One Two

Gaia sees us as flowering jewels of our planet and that as the petals open up towards the sun - we can realise that we can also grow into the light of our own true selves - and in essence realise our spirituality - as extensions of God.

Our Planet

Lends us bodies

Lends us free air

As well as free rain water

And until recently - a free food chain

What do we do in reciprocity?

Hence and

A work in progress.

How should Crew respond when meeting other Extraterrestrial Civilisations? 3 minutes. Star Trek - Errand of Mercy

Ps - I spoke directly with Spock - Leonard Nimoy when in Moscow in 1986 on a Peace Mission, about this particular episode and he said he remembered it well. (Tim)    5 minutes    Star Trek - The Transfiguration.

Local Earth Situations    7 minutes    This is about our - Heart        9 minutes    The Way-shower manifestos        3.5 minutes  Some of the Challengers. Thrive movie   

Our Planet Spaceship Earth


"We travel together, passengers on a little spaceship, dependent upon its vulnerable reserves of air and soil, all committed for our safety to its security and peace; preserved from annihilation only by the care, the work, and, I will say, the love we give our fragile craft. We cannot maintain it half fortunate, half miserable, half confident, half despairing, half slave to the ancient enemies of man, half free in a liberation of resources undreamed of until this day. No craft, no crew can travel safely with such vast contradictions. On their resolution depends the survival of us all."

Adlai Stevenson, John Kennedy’s US Ambassador to the United Nations,


A message to Crew of Our Planet - Spaceship Earth

Calling all crew …

All crew to 'Action Stations'

the ship needs you like never before …

For eons she’s bequeathed us with her holy breath -

Same with her sparkling waters - baptising our being to a

higher frequency …

And nourishing us with her tantalising foods.

All within her overarching sun and moonlit vista’s, with

eye quenching panoramas of her majestic biosphere and pulsating life.

But, pirates have infiltrated the ships systems and leveraged

into critical areas of control. These marauders have their

hands on virtually all levers of power.

Crew quarters have become expensive to live in - air, food and water quality are questioned.

Inter deck fighting, wars and violence are throughout the ship, whilst drugs and alcohol are rife  

Now propaganda has become the norm. Fragmentation, dysfunction and separation are causing alarm bells in more and more areas of our ship.

At many levels, we are forced to give away more and

more freedoms, whilst unknown agents snoop on every

message and call.

YET, there is a stirring throughout most decks, living

quarters and compartments. A holistic notion - or knowing -

that our spaceship is actually a mothership,

that she is a colossal, living, pulsating - super organism

from her - all life has issued.

That we are here on board to be part of a greater galactic symphony - in a movement premised on team spirit, cooperation, creativity and fulfilment -

of the potentialities of an unheralded, but exalted future -

where a new human emerges …

as a supra human

the message being transmitted …

that we at heart …

are embryo gods

and our time is now.

We … are being compelled ...

to wake up.

If you wish to donate and assist GreenplanetFM share the message to all crew please click on this link.  Thank you . Naku Noa - Tim and Team - Lisa Er, Liz Gunn, Stephen Grant-Jones.  

May 30, 2019

What they say they are doing - nobody can complain. But, what they are actually planning and what it means when you understand their point of view and their goals - you see that it is completely different than the ‘catch phrases’ they are using - especially when ‘they’ bring it forward to the peoples attention.

The whole gamut of Roy’s interview is that corporations and the elite, are in lockstep with big ‘global’ governance aim - to lure us, “we the people” - into ‘agreements.’

Agenda 21 which was in 9 parts has now morphed to Agenda 2030 - of 13 points - since 1992 and its signing by 178 countries at the Earth Summit (United Nations Conference on Environment and Development) held in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. It is being overseen by the  UN, other multilateral organizations, and individual governments around the world - that can be enacted at local, national, and global levels.

So essentially the agenda is looking at our planet earth and the whole biosphere to see what measures can be taken to stop pollution, the destruction of habitat, the halting of species extinction and the uncontrolled exploitation and extraction of non renewable resources everywhere. This includes the rampant use of bio-technology and dealing with radioactive waste.

So who could argue that these all need to be urgently addressed for the future of all children and grandchildren?  

Agenda 21 also focuses on population growth, poverty, health and the disenfranchisement of the poor. Indigenous peoples, women, NGO’s and their place in this Agenda, plus multinational corporations, farmers and communities from villages all the way up to now what we call super cities of the world.

Finally where does science fit into this mix?

The Document

Agenda 21 is a 350-page document divided into 40 chapters that have been grouped into 4 sections:[citation needed]

The interview starts with Roy immediately stating that this is not a people friendly agenda. That it is a depopulation agenda - he does not mince words. He emphatically states that the wording is so compelling that any ordinary person would only want to countenance such sentiment.  It reads well and sounds good - it appeals to common sense - but look at the deeper levels of it. Who is calling the shots?

So I ask him, what is it that he thinks/sees is problematic?

The word Sustainable

The big one he says is the word Sustainable - it is a word that can conjure up many different meanings.

A sustainable business is just one that is able to continue doing business for as long as it takes. Which every business  wants to do anyway.

You can have sustainable forests or a fishery, that you keep maintaining at a certain rate or level - but it’s only maintaining - where it needs to be regenerated - where it needs to be cherished as nature - not just using it as a resource.

The word sustainability has been superseded by the word Regeneration - as regeneration means to put back more. That there is an eternal component to it. Regeneration has an optimism and can also be seen as a sacred act.

Of replenishing nature, of giving back whole heartedly.

However Agenda 21 does not talk in terms of regeneration of the biosphere.

Energy and Energy Production.

Energy production today involves the largest planetary change that we have upon us and we are being held hostage by vested interests of the massive fossil fuel and oil cartel. They do not and will not budge an inch, from their extractive and polluting industrial ways.  They are controlling the agenda.

Big Oil & Fossil Fuel Thwart & Constrain - new energy systems.  

It is known that from leading edge physics and its point of view, you can receive more energy out than you put into a system - yet the status quo says - oh, the 'perpetual motion machine' - and they scoff and demonise this in total - including the inventors as well - there is a constant refusal to acknowledge that this is possible (listen to Alvin Crosby’s interview of two weeks ago, where he proved that it’s attainable with water).

So yes, ordinary everyday physics proves it’s possible. The whole universe is structured as 'an over unity device’ - the sun continues to put out endless amounts of energy. How can this be? So the whole science and the physics is showing us, that there are other equations.

See The Thrive Movie -

3 minute trailer. This tells us exceptionally clearly what the challenge is.

Roy states there are numerous desktop type ‘energy machines’ being produced - however he says the challenge is around scaling them up to be able to service the greater population. Yet, when someone does find the ‘over unity’ toroidal donut equation and produces a viable unit - they then go and patent it - because they inherently know that it’s very difficult to find that ‘unique mathematical combination.’ But, what invariably happens, that there at the patents office - this 'key global - nodal point’ - sitting in a very strategic ‘location’ are officials that are tasked to scrutinise all such 'gifts to humanity’ - where it then is essentially suppressed - usually with such hefty fees etc - and this has been happening since the 1930’s.

Yet, the Deep State for want of a far better word - control the narrative and the agenda - that is ... ‘don’t subvert or compete with the status quo!’

Roy mentions magnets and magnetism saying the energy behind what is magnetic - is a science that we know so little about - actions and reactions and forces and energies and that it is a ‘complete science’ - which we have in essence ignored. It works in tandem with gravity, electricity, it works into generation and yet magnetism is not taught!

Nikola Tesla is mentioned and his quote “The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence.

Invisible Forces

Roy says that this is a very important point - as it is invisible forces that are taking humanities lives away as of right now - in this era.

That science does not study and research the invisible is fraught with danger and in fact what we may think as toys are in actuality - weapons. With Roy emphasising that we have to learn and study these invisible forces and like every other thing in the universe, energy can be used for good or used for bad. He says we have had these invisible systems suppressed from our knowing. Yet covertly, ‘the powers that be’ are researching and advancing these technologies in secret and they are using them to help consolidate their power whilst using these technologies against us.

With Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030 he asserts that inside these ’nice goals’ - and the ‘catch phrases’ they say - is how all their newly acquired advantages, are used against us. Though not mentioned in this interview - the plan to deploy 5 G wireless - was not the subject of Roy’s interview, he knows a huge amount about it - however he  had too many other subjects he wanted to speak to.

Microwaves are detrimental to biological beings.

He firmly said - that microwaves are not good for humans - end of story. No matter what level, what intensity, what frequency - microwaves are not good for human beings!

We today are immersed in them. ‘We are living in a microwave oven’ and now we have wifi all over us - with the addition of satellites above - following us … there are so many things that are impacting our life. All being on the invisible platform of vibratory and frequency impact - on our consciousness and our health. Look at today’s increasing health statistics.

Walter Russell -  unknown genius.

Another one of the invisibles comes up with Fukushima in Japan and the continuous belching into the Pacific Ocean of nuclear radiation still today. Roy mentions that Walter Russell and his wife Tao wrote a book in the 1950s called ‘Atomic Suicide’ about the impact of radiation and playing with the hidden building blocks of the Universe. In this book Walter Russell a poly math - stated that nuclear energy is wrong! That it creates a danger at every level that it is used. Listen

He mentions that ‘nuclear situations’ can appear where matter disassociates and starts to fall apart - because all of nature is based on balance - the dynamics of the atom - the electron and the neutron inside the atom etc. So the imperative is recognising that our science is running far ahead of our collective consciousness and this is why we today are in the disconnected un-peaceful situation we have on earth. Because ‘we’ the ordinary person doing life, have been separated away from the decision making process - and for some time.


Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell “lock up this (Cosmic) knowledge in a safe for 1,000 years until man is ready for it.”

With other facets of the Agenda 21

It was George Herbert Bush, ex head of the CIA who was Vice President of the US for 8 years and President for 4 years who initiated this document and signed off on it. Then Roy says that it was Margaret Evans, Mayor of Hamilton here in NZ who signed it and adopted it to make Hamilton a model city for Agenda 21.

He says that via the UN they have been altering, changing and controlling Hamilton from that time. It’s a model - an example city. Waitakere also signed it with Bob Harvey being the mayor - listen to my interview of him here:

Roy said that they were lured by the wording by the ‘catchphrases’ in the document as to something good - but Roy says look at Hamilton as a result. There are no 4 lane roads - there are traffic islands everywhere - they are called ‘Margaret’ islands - named after the Mayor - because there are so many - parking is restricted … Hamilton is such a difficult city to pass through (I agree I bypass it) - Roy maintains that with the way the traffic is controlled - it slows down our ability to be productive humans.       Listen

He says this is happening globally - this is Agenda 21 - they slow down our ability to be productive humans. He says that Transit NZ is influenced by Hamilton Council.    Listen

He talks about our best food produced in NZ is exported - and he said that is true of every nation that is under the control of the globalist government. Many to most of the globalist governments export their own food and import somebody else’s food production.

Clipping the ticket

WHY? Because they get to ‘clip the ticket’ - plus they get to control the food chain as well as accelerate the prices. He said if we did not sell all of our food overseas and instead ate the best (being high quality export grade) and then just sold the balance - 'they’ would not be able to control our food chain regime.

That cheeses can be traded between Britain and Holland and yet they are basically the same type of cheese. (Remember the term Coals to Newcastle) - But, as you can readily see, the standard of food in NZ supermarkets now has become so low - it is as if we are buying 2nd or 3rd grade food, whilst for example in the UK, superb apples can be sold that are juicy and crisp and like kiwifruit - have no blemishes.

Meanwhile NZers ever since Sue Kedgely left Parliament have had no champion of quality food standards.

Dumbing us down

Roy says, that part of the Agenda is that it dumbs us down - that we become subservient. (and eventually we become homogenised) … easier to control.. Marginalised …

Roy goes on that those who we elect, our Government Representatives,  Members of Parliament - are just as much a victim as you and I.

They are drinking sanitised water, eating food that has glyphosate in it, they are being impacted by wifi and a variety of invisibles …they are just as susceptible to the deception as you and I.

He says the MPs have to be very special and a very focused individual, as well as exceptional capable at protecting themselves to be able to stand up to this barrage coming at them from all quarters - just to be able to survive.

An example. Goal number 11 from Agenda 2030

Now that can mean a lot says Roy!

Which means ban all gun ownership of private citizens (Globally).

Which means only obedient government officers can have or use them.

And he says it could enslave a class of people as impoverished.

Which mean criminalise those living in rural areas.

And institute protected areas … where the Government claims that it is owned by the people - but, they do not allow people to live there.

Force humans into densely populated tightly packed controlled cities …

Where they are under surveillance 24/7/365 and they are subjected to easy manipulation by the authorities

(Tim - says but I want to go out and be - in nature and regenerate) - Roy says we are of the earth and if she is our mother then we need to be in harmony with her … and cities restrict us. He says this is another aspect of the invisible attack.

That cities have become wifi and microwave hot spots and as such having an imbalanced vibratory rate, that our psychic balance is totally thrown out as there is no quietness and stillness due to so little nature. Like stands of dense bush and many trees with birdlife.

Food Codes and Irradiation.

Other subject covered is that irradiated food is coming into the country - that irradiation degrades its nutrition, plus only having tiny labels to tell us it’s irradiated by Caesium 137.

Labels on food is coded - as it is easier to hide what is in food and how it has been treated. Note that no supermarket has a large sign on the wall somewhere, telling us the numbers and what they mean and as a result most NZers seem to not care or even question …

Why do we in NZ still have no labels regarding GMO. What was it that watered down Steffan Browning’s Food Labelling Bill that went through Parliament?

Depopulation being the ultimate goal.

The fertility of the earth is what is being attacked …

Note - the falling fertility levels …

Yet, the Chinese have worked out a way to make deserts fertile. There are ways if there is the will to regenerate and grow green spaces.   

Changing Dietary Needs - having less meat.

He says the catchphrase ‘that there are too many people on earth’ - can be countered, if we slowed down eating meat and started eating less and less - there would be no difficulty in our population surviving and thriving. Scientific research says that is very doable - ‘but, the will to stop eating meat is lacking.’

Cannabis is mentioned as it is used now for many herbal cures. That using cannabis in agriculture can lead to far healthier products and wholesome soil as well as sequesting Co2 down from the atmosphere.

Loving Care and our Relationship with Existence.

This whole conversation then morphs to what is it to be human and Roy talks of the wonderful virtues than can flow forth from a loving caring, compassionate human to one that when we awaken to our potential as a living, soul based humanity - we can live in joy once we courageously open up to our divine inheritance.

Roy goes on to speak so eloquently of us as a family of humanity that can support and work together with other kin and it does not have anything to do with race, colour, gender of wealth - just a firm commitment to the truth and then making a connection to the light behind each others eyes.

He talks about our heart - our inner self, our consciousness - we have to make this leap of faith …it’s about our being and our extension to God.

That the spiritual perspective has to override the material perspective because the spiritual perspective is on the eternal platform and the physical perspective is on the material platform. And the eternal is superior in every decision .

This was a very full-on interview of a committed and very focussed communicator

Roy Harlow

May 23, 2019


He says “Make no mistake about it; there is a growing community of ‘awakening’ people are who engaged in a core dialogue about what it means to be human at the start of the 21st Century. This awakening is a natural evolution for human consciousness and is composed of two overarching parts.

First is a deep realization of the innate interdependence we have with the entirety of reality, regardless if we look at it through the lenses of ecology, quantum physics or spirituality. The second is recognizing the social and systemic dysfunction that requires collective action to be transcended by redesigning our society to reflect the new era that humanity is adventuring into.”


Phillip gives us a run down of the surprise Australian election result before going on to educate us about the value of hemp as a crop and a way to get away from the corporate control of our countries.


Hemp can be used in so many ways: as food, paper, oil, textiles, and can be used to build houses and even cars. It is good for the environment and captures carbon.

Communities can be built around hemp.

He mentions reform of banking including having local banks, and in Australia the people's national bank needs to be re-established.

Below is a list that Phillip put together of what we need to visualise and then


- Individual & national sovereignty will be restored, including how that translates into legislation and policy.

- Corruption will be squashed in our political system, including putting a halt to big business controlling policy, as well as ceasing the revolving door between government and the lobby industry.

- The people who work in our government will be adhering to the rule of law.

- The people will be properly represented in our government, including with more controversial areas of discourse.

- The many severe issues that people are facing - such as homelessness, entrenched poverty, drug addiction and so much more - will be resolved in big ways, which would result with us being a shining example on the world stage.

- In response to an increasingly globalised world, we will have localised a lot more (including local public banks, business, food & resources).

- Our communities will be more self-sufficient, in case of any financial or environmental catastrophes.

- Our children will be receiving better education, including proper health & life skills, as well as them properly understanding how they have the rights they have today.

- The most advanced health treatments will be easily accessible to the people, including plant based medicines and other more natural therapies.

- Our environment will be better taken care of, including using Hemp for biodegradable plastics, safe bio-fuels, nutritious food, stronger clothing, building materials, medicine and thousands of other products.

- Local industry will be restored & our population will be more decentralised, which will revitalise and better integrate our communities.

- Our Common Wealth, including public assets, will be returned to the people.

- We'll have a free & fair media which reports on ALL the evidence, instead of being controlled by multi-billionaires and their agendas.

- And the power will ultimately be in the hands of the people, including through a fair electoral system and Citizen-Initiated Referendums (CIRs).

He says - get excited, because to achieve all this all we need to do is work together regardless of our political or other persuasions. Together we are so strong, especially when we have an intelligent plan.

So get familiar with the above information, because it will be our weapon in battle when we take back our country for the benefit of ourselves, our environment, and our future generations... “


Phillip J. Watt is a clinical hypno-psychotherapist, author and public speaker who lives on the Mid North Coast of NSW, Australia. His first book, The Simulation, is a daring exposé of the human experience in the 21st Century. His other written and interview work deals with topics from spirituality to society, as well as self-development.

Before achieving his certification as a ‘Clinical Hypno-psychotherapist’ through the Institute of Clinical Hypnotherapy and Psychotherapy (ICHP), Phillip helped countless people as a life coach, relationship mediator and writer. He has received hundreds of messages from individuals all over the world thanking him for how he has helped them to change their life.

Since 2012 he has written many pieces which have been shared across dozens of international platforms – such as Elephant Journal, The Mind Unleashed, Wake Up World and Waking Times.

He has presented at mindfulness conferences such as the ‘The Illuminate Conference’, ‘Paradigm Shift Summit’ and ‘The Abundance Festival‘, and has been interviewed on many podcasts, such as ‘Rune Soup’‘ and ‘Skeptiko’.

He is also the creator of a podcast called ‘Dissect Media’ (formerly known as ‘Redesigning Society’), where he has had the fortune of interviewing some of the most brilliant minds of our time, including Gregg Braden, Gordon White, Rupert Sheldrake, Dean Radin, Ellen Brown, Michael Tellinger, Geoff Lawton and Amit Goswami. In addition, he has a decade-long background working in the public sector as a social worker, relationship mediator and mentor for socio economically disadvantaged kids, adults and family units with serious behavioural and medical challenges. He has also worked in policy development and project and stakeholder management at the Federal level.

He is very active on Facebook and lately has posted extensively on the corporate media, the Yellow Vest movement, natural therapies and the Australian Elections.


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May 17, 2019

Hydrogen Power

As a child Alvin listened to his father who was an aircraft engineer in the 2nd World War telling him that the British had spitfires running on hydrogen as well as the Americans with their mustangs.

Even as early as primary school through to secondary he would then ask questions of his science teachers if this was possible and the answer was always no - never - but as he learnt a little more from his father, he furthered his questioning - as he said that the hydrogen gas gave these aircraft a huge surge of power. However his teachers ‘towing the line’ that they themselves had been taught consistently threw the 3rd Law of Thermodynamics at him.   

However this idea of fire from water fascinated Alvin and whilst a kid he experimented with draining a motorcycle battery of the acid - putting fresh water into it and linking it to a power supply had it bubbled. So and he put a hose pipe in place to catch what was coming off and lit the other end of the pipe and a flame came out - to then explode - causing him to lose his hearing for a number of days.

Though it scared him - he now realised it was for real - so he decided to engineer this idea further. So with the assistance of a BP engineer from Britain giving him more information - he over time created a generator that could produce hydrogen and do real things with like welding and melting stone - the heat given off being around 4,000 degrees.

He then built a company that produced these hydroxy welding units here in NZ and for a while exported them globally.

Ether another far more subtle element

Alvin also talks about the ether -  and maintains that it exists. He also said that the Hadron high energy particle collider in Europe the scientists there talk about the God particle - and this comes right down to ‘thought.’ That ‘thoughts’ are very much part of the creative process.

There is a lot of contradiction around the physics of hydrogen especially at Universities where they trot out the same statement time and again that it takes more energy to turn hydrogen into a gas than the amount of gas that you get out of this process. This he says is an old way of thinking.  

He says that he got into trouble with the status quo by extracting a 26% return of energy - and he says that’s because science does not take into account - latent energy in the environment. He says have a look at heat pumps today and we get a return of  7 to 8 to One - return. Heat pumps, are a way shower that baffle the old paradigm.

Water is just not H2O as we have been taught there are something like 36 types of water - that is, stable water - where you can see it as a liquid - not as a gas.

It is very complex molecule system - so if we look at the electron cloud of water itself, it has a geometric triangle and when you put the 2 tetrahedrons together in 3 D - we get a star tetrahedron  - Star of David - ice crystals - It starts to show us the secrets that re in the water.

Alvin mentions the Israeli flag and that inside - in the middle is a tiny dot. That this is very important - as it puts the whole Star of David into context.

Alvin refers to Job in the Bible to verses 38 & 39 - where Job, whom Alvin’s says was like a scientist - and these verses give more detailed information on the creation and the makeup of the world and nature. That God formed the earth, set its structure, put bounds to keep the sea under control, created all the heavenly bodies, and even controls the weather.  Also the order of seasons, the power of waves and storms, the beauty of trees and flowers and lakes and mountains - all point to a benevolent Creator who made and sustains this world. We can find something about God by looking carefully at the world that God has made.

Alvin talks of water being a compound substance - yet not a substance of itself - and also that we humans are made of this same substance - that an adult human is about 65 % water, newborn babies 85% or more.

He says that we are consciousness in a water body -

Stating that in quantum mechanics scientists are very focussed on researching water - but this needs far more support and finance etc

The number of 3 6 and 9 are very important - the frequency of everything is allied to these numbers. (I did not ask him why oils for human health are graded as Omega 3, 6, and 9 as the narrative was moving quite rapidly at that time.)  

Alvin talks about the illusionary world that we inhabit in that everything is energy and that oscillate at a particular frequency on this particular dimension - Listen

Water has Memory

Water has a memory - That he had contact with Jacques Benveniste,  top-level French biochemist of impeccable scientific credentials, who gave the world the 'memory of water'. Talking about hexagonal water. Plus his controversial experiment into the efficacy of homeopathy. It can be noted that all over France and Germany today are homeopathic there are thousands of homeopathic practitioners and outlets for homeopathic tinctures.

May 9, 2019

This was that provided Aucklanders and their elected representatives can become ‘ecologically conscious’ at this critical time of changing climate and insect decline. If the vision articulated by Sarah can be picked up by other cities across the whole of New Zealand, maybe - just maybe - New Zealand can hold its head up high as being a ‘clean green nation.’ A big ask? Yes, but the groundswell and grassroots support are growing far more as we realise the seriousness of our changing planet and biosphere.   

The Love of Bee’s project - is an artwork and a framework for inviting people to engage in new possibilities - it transforms. Like something that may be considered a problem and is then rendered into something that we can co-create, re-arrange and re-design together. So the project people, use bees as a magnet - it works up our hearts and invites people to imagine that Auckland is the safest city on earth for bees. This is also where they can learn practical skills around the life cycle of bees and the flora that supports bees.

This is to make it easier for bees to be able to fly the 3 - 5 ks in search of nectar, etc. Especially the space that they travel in, has to be as safe as possible - and Sarah’s team, helps people learn regenerative organic practices so as to give the bees the best chance - to pollinate flowers to enable the highest proportion possible, of flower fertilisation.

Urban Farming - food growing in the city

With land that has been obtained at 527 Symonds St, Auckland city, along with a growing community of dedicated friends, they are focussing on the possibilities of 'urban farming' - regenerative organic urban farming and also creating strategies to deal with our climate change obligations.

Sarah talks about being given this small section of land to use in Central City, Symond's St, to experiment with, but for only a year - however as an artwork as well the brief that they are working with, they are looking to develop what they call climate change ready infrastructure.  She believes that local urban farms and local living 'compost hubs' in unified projects gives them the capacity to develop 10 climate change ready values - which include carbon sequestration - biodiversity - wellbeing - water retention capacities - heat sinks - food security - local jobs - the transformation of food scraps into a useful resource - air filtration - social cohesion and  - optimism.

So organic regenerative urban farms across Auckland, is an idea that is being seeded as a way forward and that with education and enthusiasm this will help make Auckland become far more bee friendly.

City Insect pollination (bees) is an imperative

Where cities were focused on infrastructure of roads and buildings, more cities today are wanting people friendly spaces and flowering trees, shrubs and flowers are becoming more common place overseas, where conscious decision making is benevolently changing the environment. In Japan, they are looking at bees as a means to pollinate flowers that are fragrant and that in Tokyo and other cities, they have focussed on this so that flower scents and fragrances enable people to feel more at ease and happier. So much, that the crime rate actually falls - due to the sense of peace and contentment within that larger community

That there was measurable outcome of less violence - even if they may not call it resonance - but something happened, that softened the vibes.

Need for more flowers across cities and urban areas.

Sarah talks about the lack of flowers in cities and even here in NZ, this has a detrimental effect on bees - because with no nectar and or pollen - survival becomes very challenging - also in Spring you can have many bees and flowers but as Autumn comes with still many bees - but not enough flowers then going into Winter  … survival becomes a problem. Note some apiaries are fed sugar during winter to keep the hive alive.  

She says that for a bee colony to survive it needs a staggering number of flowers - to supply the needs of the bee colony being vital and flourishing.

One teaspoon of honey is equal to 12 bee lives of flying, foraging collecting and storing.

Honey is not only for the bees sustenance but also used so as to make wax. Seven ounces of honey is needed to produce one ounce of wax. There is a good amount of wax needed for the bees to make the hexagonal structure in frames so as to store honey and incubate the pupae - baby bees.

By planting more flowers that flower all year around is very important, but quality too is important and this impels us to look at our horticulture, agriculture and also our weed control strategies.

Herbicide Sprays are decimating the Insect Kingdom

Simply put, we have pesticides, herbicides, insecticides and fungicides - in our ecosystem now. That we have become so addicted to them and that we have forgotten how to operate without them, that we have on many levels completely degraded the ecosystem. Hard core herbicides like glyphosate, which is now banned in France - is taking its toll on the natural world.

Compost and Humus = Healthy Soil and Healthy Plants.

Sarah, talks about healthy vital plants and that if we are giving them the best of soil, and humus, water and light etc - you do not need to concern yourself with pests. If you have unhealthy plants - the pests can pick up the 'distress signals' from the unhealthy plant and so will attack and eat them. Listen as Sarah takes us on a journey into how the plant does life, in orchestrating a homeostatic relationship with the microflora. Especially how the plants infra red light flashes signalling to pests that it is unhealthy and that its defences are weak - enticing the insect pests to come and eat and or lay their eggs on the leaf. Which means that this plant now a goner.

Listen …

In New Zealand there are 28 native bees - yes this is true

Dr Ngaire Hart PHD nee in Auckland is mentioned for her work on native bees

NZ Farms that are Growing Soil and Humus

Christine Jones PhD from Australia is recommended by Sarah -

Agrisea bio stimulants

Hear about a farming couple near Taupo over a 3-4 year period they used bio stimulants - changed their grazing practices and grew their soils by a number of inches - then Christine returned and she had them do another test and then introduced multiple plants into their paddocks - so they drilled in 18 different plant species into their worst paddock and 5 months later Christine was on that paddock again. They then dug down in numerous areas of their paddocks and to their surprise they had built up the soil by one and half spade depths - in 5 months!

Because with all these different plant species added to the paddock - (along with Agrisea’s ocean mineral products) - like in rainforest - diversity builds resilience

Also mentioned is Ernest Gotsch - Syntropic farming in Brazil - and this fantastic 2 minute video -

Sarah talks about Climate change as now the 'evolutionary driver' for us as a humanity to come together and collaborate and cooperate to initiate the much needed changes to curtail all of our wasteful ways - that have been happening over a very broad spectrum.

She talked about projects become silo’ed and end up factionalised. That we have to think and visualise holistically and actively engage in ways of conflict resolution and fine innovative methods to find ways to bring opposing points of view to reconcile - to work toward a win-win situation - especially for the sake of children and those to come.

What I intuitively got from this interview is that Sarah is inclusive - there is room for everyone - we can not go on following the same patterns -  stopping silofication of projects is an imperative - we have much more to agree on than to disagree on.

Big Changes Needed.

She wants big changes in how the city does business - that there are now many volunteers working as ‘a labour of love’ - who need to be trained up to be able to be paid for running very focused composting and urban farms - listen for the fullness of this.

Shared Opportunity

That instead of one or two business running everything that it needs to be a shared opportunity across the whole the city - where participants are empowered to initiate the much needed changes for Auckland to be a world leading city that is 'ecologically conscious.' That our strategies need to be diversified - just like soil systems need to be diversified - this is where the whole impetus is heading - especially if we want to change the paradigm before climate change and insect losses become beyond critical. We need to act now

Sarah acknowledges Richard Main, Trish Allen and Kay Baxter - for holding the vision of a healthy organic, regenerative future.  

Sarah said that she is called the 'bee lady' - but she says she really is the biology lady ….

A wonderful interview ...

Sarah Smuts-Kennedy

For the Love of Bees is a concept that helps seemingly unrelated ecological projects become one cohesive action via the lens of bees.

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